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Subject: Re: what does the new rebel package have that chessbase engines dont?

Author: Don Prohaska

Date: 08:45:09 10/13/00

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I've always found the Rebel programs to be among the best if not the best. The
Rebel company has always been responsive and helped its customers.  Even though
I now prefer Chessbase products for various reasons, I will buy Rebel because of
quality and service. Rebel is worth the money and when the new product is out I
will purchase it.



On October 13, 2000 at 11:28:40, Harald Faber wrote:

>On October 13, 2000 at 09:03:45, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2000 at 08:35:49, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>:-)
>>>Sure. Not only one but four STRONGER engines (note the plural!), ICS support,
>>>customizable menues and extended database handling e.g.
>>
>>The number of engines is only relevant if you know what to do with them. Most
>>people can't hope to beat any of them and you really only need one for analysis.
>
>
>Most of the people have more than one chess program. What do you think is the
>reason?
>Hint: read Uris posting.
>
>
>>Apparently no tournament option either, which only leaves ICS and maybe the
>>databse options. Sounds like even more Tiger clones at ICC.
>
>
>No clones, the possibility to tune the engine is very limited.
>I get the impression that you only try to provoke here.
>No serious thinking guy would compare Winboard with any other commercial chess
>program and say that they are the same, "just some database and ICS features"
>more in the commercial program. These database features e.g. make the
>difference, because they also offer analysis features.
>For me and many others this is very important and I am not gonna justify why if
>you are not able to understand that.
>Sure you might have another opinion but this is no reason to try to
>down-evaluate this commercial program. With your arguments you could argue
>against any other commercial programs because of course they also offer "only"
>some more database functions and ICS support. So they are all not worth buying.
>
>
>>Why not include a WinBoard version as well? This would entice current users of
>>other systems. Shouldn't be too difficult to accomplish either.
>
>
>Why not vice versa like it is? You can play and use any Winboard-engine in Rebel
>Tiger.
>
>
>>>Winboard??? Have you ever looked at Winboard and at ChessPartner? Winboard is by
>>>far inferior to any GUI I have seen.
>>
>>It supports the same advantages you just mentioned, except for the database
>>handling. The engines available might not be just as strong, but strong enough
>>for most.
>
>
>For losing games it is enough to play Fritz3 or even Fritz2 on a current
>machine.
>Your database handling argument...well, read above.
>
>
>>If the CP GUI supports tournaments then the four different engines and WinBoard
>>support would be splendid. Otherwise it's just eng-eng, analysis and ICS. All
>>supported by WinBoard and WinBoard compatible engines.
>
>
>Your ignorance is impressive.
>
>
>>>If your argument is price then CM8000 is also too expensive because it costs
>>>money. Take Crafty and Winboard, that seems to be the best combination for you.
>>
>>Maybe for me, but we're not talking about me specifically. The consumer should
>>know what he or she is getting compared to the competition and at what price.
>>
>>Mogens.
>
>
>Concerning GUI almost the same the competitors offer plus amazing new engines
>(again plural!).



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