Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 22:35:05 10/21/00
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On October 20, 2000 at 21:24:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 20, 2000 at 15:15:11, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On October 20, 2000 at 09:33:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2000 at 00:13:18, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>> >>>>On October 19, 2000 at 21:08:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 19, 2000 at 16:51:49, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 18, 2000 at 09:56:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 18, 2000 at 05:44:36, Andrew Williams wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My apologies if this is old news. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There was an account called DeepBlueJr watching Kramnik-Kasparov, game 6 >>>>>>>>on ICC last night. The finger notes said the owner was Murray Campbell >>>>>>>>(a couple of the admins stated that it was indeed DeepBlueJr). I asked >>>>>>>>him what exactly he was using and he said that it was a 24-processor >>>>>>>>version attached to a R/6000. He said the processors were the same ones >>>>>>>>that ran in the Deeper Blue that beat Kasparov. I asked him what NPS he >>>>>>>>was getting and he said "looks like 28M" (!). I also asked him what sorts >>>>>>>>of depths it was searching, but he didn't answer. Another thing he didn't >>>>>>>>answer was my suggestion that he join CCT2 :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The program wasn't kibitzing automatically like crafty does, but he was >>>>>>>>occasionally cutting and pasting the analysis into channel 211. This was >>>>>>>>around the time that Kramnik was on top, before the win seemed to slip >>>>>>>>away from him. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Andrew >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>PS Just in case anyone was wondering, I asked him if he minded my reporting >>>>>>>>this conversation here and he was quite happy for me to do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I was surprised, too. But I did chat with him a good bit and am convinced that >>>>>>>it was Murray. I will try to bug him a bit about CCT2, but I have a suspicion >>>>>>>that IBM won't allow public exhibitions like that... >>>>>> >>>>>>Really.... Wow. When he posted that, I was convinced some joker had set up the >>>>>>pseudo as a prank. (Sorry about that Andrew) >>>>>> >>>>>>Did you ask him about the tuning? Have they done any work on refining the eval >>>>>>or is it unchanged from the time of the match? 28 million NPS... Wonder how much >>>>>>that cuts in to the depths compared to its bigger brother. >>>>>> >>>>>> Albert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I didn't understand the 28M number, but my screen was so danged busy scrolling >>>>>all the nerdy comments from the 1000 people observing the game, that I didn't >>>>>get a chance to ask him. 24 processors at >= 2M nodes per second per processor >>>>>should be 48M. I assumed he typoed when he said 28M. >>>>> >>>>>It (DB Jr) was a holy terror against GMs in the many exhibitions they played >>>>>prior to the final DB match. This machine would be less than 10x slower than >>>>>the real machine. I would think it would be a handful for anybody. >>>> >>>>24 processors? Hmm... 16? >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>> >>>He definitely said 24. Of course he might have meant 16. 24 caught my eye >>>as that would be three 'modules' of DB hardware. No reason why it couldn't >>>be right now, as the workstation he was using might be faster than the one >>>they had when they were touring the world with DB Jr. And a faster host would >>>need more chess processors to maintain the right "balance". >> >>I didn't realize you were quoting him; I had just been musing. >> >>Murray will be giving a talk here (at the U of A) sometime this month or next, >>but unfortunately he won't be here for long, so it's likely to be an in-and-out >>affair. >> >>Dave > > >Don't forget to ask him about DBjr's hardware, etc. Would be interesting >data.. Well, he's actually coming to talk about eBusiness! But I'll see if I can sneak it in. Dave
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