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Subject: Re: What Gambit New Paradigm could be...if it exist

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 02:33:28 10/24/00

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On October 24, 2000 at 03:13:41, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>i have not seen ignorance in what the people posted. they tried to keep
>this forum informed about what they found out.
>where is the ignorance ??

I've already explained several times how I believe information should be
provided and in what manner, eg. games, testsuits and testpositions with the
purpose of exploring strengths and weaknesses. Well analysed games is another
possibility for indepth exploration. Nothing new about that IMO.

Most of the testers posting here did quite okay, but some only contributed with
meaningless babble. The threads are there to be read. Quoting them again is
wasting my time and yours.

>IMO the ignorance came from you, jumping on the people , claiming
>all kind of allgations, without having that thing.
>as a scientist i would have expected you to wait for the program, to
>test it yourself and then to critisize the data, but not the people.

If you had actually read the things I've written then it would be obvious that I
don't doubt the strength of the program, nor the validity of the data posted.
However, the amount of peculiar and incorrect conclusions - mainly put forth by
you - is quite staggering.

Your approach to chess programs reminds me of a child looking at packages under
the tree at Christmas, trying desperately to guess what's beneath the glittery
surface. Unfortunately, you don't want to unwrap the presents, because it'll
just prove you wrong. But a child doesn't mind being wrong as long as it's a
nice gift.

The other thing that struck me was the reason behind the 'new paradigm' event.
The psychological explanation for the comparison must be that you feel guilty
about abandoning CS Tal for Tiger and desperately wants to ease your conscience
by inventing a nonexistant relationship.

I have no problem accepting that there have been some kind of inspiration, but
it isn't sufficient foundation for the exclusive "club" you've started. Gambit
Tiger, CS Tal and Gandalf are by no means unique. Very interesting? Yes. Unique?
No.

>it seems you have no clue about scientific-methods.

Unfortunately for you, I actually do. The incomplete dataset supports a
hypothesis about strength increase worthy of further empirical investigation,
but not esoteric conclusions like 'paradigm' and 'planning'.

>you only use them to camouflage your main-reasons behind posting.
>and this was outed perfectly during the process of critisizing these people.

Yes, I'm without a doubt the embodiment of evilness ;o).

>thank you mogens.

You're welcome.

Mogens.



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