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Subject: Re: If Shredder 4 is that strong Version 5 will even destroy DF 7 !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:51:38 11/10/00

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On November 09, 2000 at 20:13:56, Chessfun wrote:

>On November 09, 2000 at 18:57:37, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>If Shredder 4.00 is really that strong which was never tested on the SSDF
>>then Shredder 5.00 claim is legitimate of being the strongest available P.C.
>>chess program
>
>
>You really should be more factual.
>Shredder 4 is on the list. Admitedly not as Shredder 4 but you have been
>reading this forum long enough to know as I do that it is there. Also this
>week games were actually posted in this forum of Shredder 4 whether this was
>identified as Shredder finally by mistake is the only unknown.
>http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?137103
>
>Any claim currently IMO by any program as being the strongest available
>PC program is wrong. It maybe ok to say estimated as being stronger than
>Fritz 6 or IMO stronger, but until I actually see the numbers posted by the SSDF
>I won't believe them. There is a difference is beating Fritz 6 than being the
>strongest overall after playing different programs.
>
>Sarah.


I believe you will find that _every_ program has its nemesis.  It might win
> 60% against most programs.  But there is almost always that _one_ program
that it loses consistently to, or that it doesn't do as well against as it
does against the others...

You can take a group of programs, and by careful manipulation, pair them so
that program X wins most of the time.  Because the "nemesis" program is put
into a place where it must play its nemesis before it plays the one that is
supposed to win.  That is why small tournaments really don't tell the whole
story.  It takes several, with totally different pairings, to reveal the
real 'winner'.



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