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Subject: Re: Any Programs See THIS As A Draw? - question to programmers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:20:42 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 02:46:23, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>Another position like this is LCTFIN08 (Louget II test, Endgame #8):
>
>[D]2k5/p7/Pp1p1b2/1P1P1p2/2P2P1p/3K3P/5B2/8 w
>
>If c5 is not played, a bunch of piece-shuffling will happen.  At least in this
>one it's possible to play c5 later (in at least one of the other positions, the
>move had to be played immediately, or it could never be played) and so the
>50-move rule would help.  However, it'd be nice for several obvious reasons to
>be able to play c5 more quickly.

Remember, the first goal is to win the game.  If a pawn push is required to
win, does it really matter whether the pawn push is provoked by some obscure
'weariness' evaluation term, or by the 50-move rule?  Yes, moving the pawn
sooner would make the game end sooner.  But since the game result doesn't take
into account how many moves the game lasted, this really doesn't matter when you
look at the big picture.

Cray Blitz won many games based on its specialized draw scoring algorithm.  But
it took a lot of time to win those games...



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