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Subject: Re: Turing tested at last?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:27:30 11/19/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 11:20:20, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On November 19, 2000 at 11:16:43, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 2000 at 11:05:41, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 2000 at 10:25:21, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:
>>>
>>>>There has been some discussion here about holding some
>>>>"exhibition" variations on the Turing test.
>>>>
>>>>This must be done eventually.
>>>>If successful, it would be epoch-making.
>>>>
>>>>I think the year 2001 is fantastically apropo,
>>>>promotionally speaking!
>>>
>>>I don't think any of the top computer programs can come close to passing a
>>>turing test. There is a well known class of positions that are easy for humans,
>>>but hard or impossible for computers.
>>>
>>>The programmers of the top chess programs have invested little effort to change
>>>this for the simple reason that such positions are relatively rare and the net
>>>effect of trying to deal with such positions would only serve to weaken their
>>>programs.
>>>
>>>I would not be surprised if the CCC membership could easily devise a test
>>>consisting of 10 positions, which virtually any strong human would solve 10 of
>>>10 and the top programs would solve 0 of 10.
>>>
>>>BTW, please ignore my other post in this thread. I unintentionally hit submit
>>>without writing anything. Sorry.
>>
>>You are definitely right.
>>That's why I said "exhibition variations on the Turing test".
>>They were talking about playing whole games, not special test positions.
>>And we know that the computers are getting close here.
>>
>>I'm talking about an "exhibition".
>
>Okay. Now I understand.


I still agree with Ricardo.  Computers do things that no human would
consider.  One game?  It _might_ pass.  Six games?  Not a chance.



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