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Subject: Re: The present generation (2001), 2000, and 1999.

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 07:43:52 11/20/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 21:54:01, James Swafford wrote:

>On November 19, 2000 at 20:46:48, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>We are indeed seeing the new upcoming generation of chess programs (ready for
>>2001) losing many games to the outgoing generation (2000).
>>  And during the past year, we have often seen, even many games sometimes being
>>won by the 1999 program aginst a 2000 one.
>>  But normally the newer generation wins slightly more. Maybe that is largely
>>because they were tested over and over again, to make sure of that, before they
>>were ever released.
>>  But how about testing 2001 programs against 1999 ones. Can we be sure that
>>2001 would win a vast majority, or even more important, atleast, never be
>>convincingly beaten, even if it has to lose the occasional game (against a 1999
>>version)?
>>  Hiarcs, by the way, as far as I understand, is a 1998 program. 7.0, 7.01, and
>>7.32 are the exact same program, and it still holds its own quite well today (it
>>would even be compatible with 2001), but it's getting on the lower end, whereas
>>in 1998 it was on the top of many rating lists.
>> But how is this exactly? and with 1999 in general?
>>Maybe Hiarcs 7.** will not be rendered helpless, even by the top programs in
>>2005!
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>If I understand you correctly, you're saying something like:
>
>A=2000 program beats 1999 program
>B=2001 program beats 2000 program
>C=2001 program beats 1999 program
>
>P(A) > .5   [probability that 2000 beats 1999 > 50%]
>P(B) > .5
>What about P(C | B)?   [probability of C given B]
>
>My gut feeling (and my math) tells me that, more often that not,
>2001 programs will beat 1999 programs. :-)
>
>--
>James

Perhaps more interesting would be P(B | C).



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