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Subject: Re: Moderation: Re: nothing drives you like a C.....ën !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:39:43 12/05/00

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On December 05, 2000 at 20:32:59, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On December 05, 2000 at 10:31:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 2000 at 00:53:27, Michael Cummings wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 2000 at 23:15:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 04, 2000 at 08:52:12, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Here is a good case in point.  obviously 100% off-topic.  Nothing to do
>>>>with computer chess.  not one suggestion to delete it.  I have no problem
>>>>with such posts.  But it would seem that some do.  And some don't.  How is
>>>>this different from the constitution discussion?  From the legal discussion?
>>>>etc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Pardon me while I go take something for this headache.  Caused by trying to
>>>>figure out just what "standard" everyone wants to see...
>>>
>>>I think this is fine, its a bit of harmless fun in what looks like to be a
>>>heated discussion that pops up amoung the programmers every now and then.
>>>
>>>Its not like this was the start of a thread, just a bit of harmless fun in the
>>>middle of one.
>>>
>>>If he had started a new thread with this topic then I would have given it the
>>>flick. To me their is a difference as to when and how a post is posted as to
>>>what effect it has.
>>>
>>>If you, me and the others had not commented on your post on how you feel this
>>>should affect your moderation of posts, then I think there would of not been one
>>>reply to his post.
>>>
>>>Delete the new posts that start of as being really off topic, but keep the ones
>>>like his that are just a bit of harmless fun in the middle of one.
>>
>>
>>The problem is that if I graded exams/projects that subjectively, I would not
>>have a single student signing up for courses I teach.  And justifiably so.  As
>>I recall, the US Constitution was a sub-thread.  If it wasn't, it could have
>>been.  Does it make sense to chop it as a thread, keep it as a sub-thread?
>
>But that is why you are moderator to then use your subjective view to keep this
>place calm.
>
>If someone starts a thread under the heading "US Elections" or "US making fools
>out of themselves" and then went on to make fun of how long this election is
>taking. Then that should be deleted, no matter even if there is right or
>sensible information contained within it. Those types of posts are there to
>start a fire, cause we know people like to word bash other countries.
>

You _do_ read this place, right?  :)

notice what happens when I (or another moderator) says "stop here." when a
post veers off topic significantly.  The moderator issue thread becomes longer
than the _original_ thread... :(



>But on the other hand if there is another thread which starts off computer chess
>related, and in the 20 or so posts contained within that thread two are about
>what type of car they drive, then that is fine as long as it does not get out of
>hand and turn into a 50 post thread about what type of car they drive.
>
>I just think it depends on what you and most people would regard as carrying an
>off topic thread far enough. I would say once somethig goes past ten posts in a
>thread and it is getting right off topic then some warning should be posted
>within the thread, telling them to take it elsewhere.
>
>Simply put all new posts should be computer chess related. If they are not, then
>it depends on the content and what the thread is likely to turn into as to
>whether you should delete it or give a warning from the start of the thread.
>
>Thorstens post was always going to cause urguements. Cause no matter what, every
>U.S person is going to see any comment on how they run the elections and what is
>happening as U.S bashing.
>
>It is just the way it is, cause the U.S media loves to say, "Leader of the Free
>world", "US are the world leaders". So of course when people start to comment on
>their country they will want to defend it, cause the U.S people have these words
>continually shoved down their throat through the media and government.
>
>Just like I dare anyone to say that Australia is not the best in the world in
>Rugby Union, Rugby League, Womens Hockey, Netball, Cricket (just beat West
>Indies to make it a NEW WORLD RECORD for 12 strait test match wins).
>To me it is all a form of brainwashing. You hear enough times how good you are,
>you start to believe it without question.
>
>I think being a moderator you have to at least know how proud people are going
>to be of their countries cause that is what they have been bought up to
>learning. Ever wondered when communist countries used to have their people line
>up to get bread and soap, and still these people loved their country thinking it
>was the best way to live.
>
>Just like if anyone had a go at Australia, whether right or wrong, I would
>defend and tell them off :)
>
>At least our 2000 Olympic games was declared the BEST GAMES EVER, which did have
>the U.S a bit peeved, cause the IOC President only said in Atlanta "It has been
>most exceptional" which means the Atlanta games is the only one of late that
>never hand the honour of being called the best games ever. Which is pretty much
>a huge slap in the face.
>
>See even though my last comment is true and correct, how many people will attack
>what I said even though it is the truth. Is it U.S bashing or just a true
>statement of fact.



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