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Subject: Re: Getting what I want from a freeware chess program

Author: Brian Kostick

Date: 17:35:03 12/31/00

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On December 31, 2000 at 14:06:04, Pete Galati wrote:

>On December 31, 2000 at 13:19:30, Wayde Beasley wrote:
>
>>On December 31, 2000 at 11:45:19, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On December 31, 2000 at 11:05:36, Wayde Beasley wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 30, 2000 at 20:11:35, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Start learning the C programming language
>>>>
>>>>I see I'm in the wrong place -- see ya.
>>>
>>>Look at it this way Wayde, you want a zillion things added to Winboard, but it's
>>>just the wrong program to do that to, and most of us wouldn't like Winboard
>>>anymore if it could do a zillion extra things because it would turn into
>>>bloatware.
>>>
>>>BUT..., you can download the source code for Winboard, which is programmed in
>>>"C", and if you have some background in C, then you can start making yourself a
>>>custom version, but you may be getting ahead of yourself, because you're
>>>anxiouslly waiting for Fritz to arrive, (takes about 2 days if you order
>>>directly from Chessbaseusa), and that's just a real nice interface the way it
>>>is.  I have only a minor complaint or 2 about it.  But the way it sits, it might
>>>be allready what you want, and not a seriously butchered Winboard.
>>>
>>>But if you're going to assume that you're in the wrong place just because of a
>>>post that _I_ made, then maybe you ARE in the wrong place.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>Maybe I'm not in the wrong place; maybe you're in the wrong place :)
>
>You wouldn't be the first person to say that.
>
>>
>>Well, point is NOT whether I'll be satisfied with Fritz or not.  That is
>>irrelevant.  I want to hire a freelance programmer to build a better open source
>>frontend to winboard engines w/ features I want.  If you think that's silly, I
>>could care less.  It's my money.  Fritz ain't open source.  And from the opinion
>>of someone else here, I wouldn't have to feel guilty about cutting into
>>Chessbase's profits by spurring the development of an open source frontend that
>>replaces that winboard piece of shit.
>>
>>Point of my inquiry here is simply to find the RIGHT GUY to do it for MONEY.
>>And also get an idea about what amount MONEY it would take.  Get it?
>>
>>I don't even care about linux vs. windows, really -- just as long as it's open
>>source.  I'm already talking to a guy where I live who would be willing to do
>>it.  He seems to want $1,000 to create a full-fledged multiboard frontend to
>>winboard engines and says he can do it in 30 days - in either VB or Delphi,
>>though.  That price to me seems a bit high.  But then I am not surprised either.
>> Based on what he is saying, I am actually drawing up a plan and list of the
>>menus and features I want.  We'll see what he says then.
>
>If you do hire that guy, tell us what he can deliver in a month.  VB or Delphi?
>They don't seem especially ideal.
>
>My opinion is that he can't deliver, but good luck.  IMO, this is more difficult
>than a one month's work for $1000 type of job.
>
>Pete

This person probably is in the wrong place. A programmer who is going to work
for $6.25/hr or less?? Yes, many write, contribute, test, and distribute for
fun, pleasure, and/or to give back to the community. I see no need to speak
words to insult them or their work. However, to think that someone with a
interest in monetary gain will work for such peanuts?? I suggest that if this
programmer can be hired and deliver the product that the contract be written up
and accepted. If the result is good, a tip exceeding the initial $1000 would be
in order. Otherwise the time would be better spent riding the back of a gargage
truck and this programmer could earn $12/hr. laughs.

Br5an



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