Author: stuart taylor
Date: 01:27:28 01/11/01
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On January 11, 2001 at 04:09:07, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 11, 2001 at 02:33:18, Ricardo Gibert wrote: > >>On January 10, 2001 at 17:50:40, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On January 10, 2001 at 07:26:35, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>The question is all in the heading. I mean with hardware of about 450 mhz. >>>>upwards (till 1.2 ghz?). >>>> This question is an ofshoot of Uri's comment that Rebel does better with more >>>>time. >>>> If you want to analyse a move for 2 hours, which program would have seen most >>>>(of what is important and relevant, and consequently play the strongest move) in >>>>those 2 hours. Or longer? >>> >>>Not only do we not know the answer to that question, we'll never even come close >>>to knowing. >> >>Never? That's a long time. You're forgetting about Moore's Law, which can >>effectively convert hours into minutes. Also, someone with access to a large LAN >>could do the test. Besides, if the programs compared are competitive at normal >>time controls, probably the one with the lowest average EBF is strongest at the >>much slower time controls. Naturally, a test is the only way to know for sure, >>since a lower EBF can have it's drawbacks. > >Yes, really, never. > >I have a large LAN I can use for such things. Even so, the project is >ridiculously out of scope. I am just finishing a contest that ran 1000 2 hour >games and it took me 6 months to finish it. With absurdly dedicated effort, >working around the clock, I could have completed it in one month. That would be >just about what would be needed to get an accurate figure for a single >engine/engine pair. AT G/60!!! Now, stretch it out to 2 hours per move. > >Now, supposing we got 1000 computers properly configured (it would take months >of testing to be sure that we had done so). Now, perhaps in a few years we can >complete that contest. However, by that time the winner would be hopelessly >outclassed by the new programs that had appeared in the intervening time. >Hence, the answer would still be completely unanswered. > >Faster computers won't help to answer it either. The question is still "At 2 >hours per move, which is strongest program?" So having a Petahertz computer >won't help a lick. I mean 2 hours per move at the speed of present day computers. S.Taylor
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