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Subject: Re: here it is.

Author: leonid

Date: 16:41:34 01/17/01

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On January 17, 2001 at 18:43:43, Paul wrote:

>On January 17, 2001 at 18:18:34, leonid wrote:
>
>>On January 17, 2001 at 18:10:38, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>My program says mate in 9 for black ... here's a line:
>>>
>>>1... Qxb4 2. Rg8+ Ne8 3. Nxe4 Ncxb3+ 4. cxb3 Nxb3+ 5. axb3 Qxa3+
>>>6. bxa3 Qcc3+ 7. Nxc3 Qxc3+ 8. Ka2 Rd2+ 9. Bc2 Qexb3x
>>>
>>>Paul
>>
>>Can you indicate by what program you solved and all basic data about solution?
>>Selective or brute force search, hash table, special mate solver or usual chess
>>game. Speed of your computer.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Leonid.
>
>Hi Leonid ...
>
>It's my own program 'Pretz', selective nullmove search, 48MB hash, usual
>chess program, 400MHz PII. So it's possible there's a shorter mate.
>
>Don't know the exact solving time, cause I had more things running
>at the same time, but it was a couple of minutes.
>
>Paul

Thanks!

Pretty new for me to see that nullmove could be used as some kind of selective
search for mate.

It is possible that 9 moves is the shortest move. I only found that mate is
between 11 moves and 7. Six moves I looked through brute force. In six mate not
existe.

Brute force, even 6 moves took on mine around 6 minutes. Branching factor looked
very bad for this position. With similar branching factor and having no hash in
the program, I thought that looking for exact solution will be too long.

Please indicate address of your program, if it is complet chess program (not
engin) and if it free. Curious to see if I already know it.

Thanks,
Leonid.



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