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Subject: Re: New SSDF-list

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:48:58 02/24/98

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On February 24, 1998 at 14:43:25, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>>no - the fast searchers have - for the first time in the history of
>>>computerchess and ssdf-list, overtaken the knowledged based programs.
>>>THATS the big surprise.
>>
>>
>>you haven't been around long enough to say that.  Can you spell Chess
>>4.x?
>
>
>Bob - i was born 1966 ! :-)
>the first chess-computer I registered was Fidelity 7 or Chess Champion
>MK1 and this was 1979 or 78.
>
>
>>they went from smart/selective to dumb/fast, and set the world on fire.
>
>How poetic :-)
>
>>Cray Blitz went from smart/selective to dumb/fast (at first) and went
>>way
>>up in speed, with a real rating of 2258 (USCF) in 1980.  There's nothing
>>new here at all.  You simply find that there are two approaches.  Fast
>>means simple, which translates into easy debugging issues.  Smart means
>>complex, which translates into complex debugging issues.  Although I
>>don't
>>agree that Rebel is a slow/smart program when it is faster than Crafty
>>on
>>equal hardware...
>
>Rebel is fast, but knowledged !


Time will tell.  I disagree.  You can only do so much computing and
still
hit an NPS value of X.  Hiarcs is clearly slow.  So I assume it is doing
a
lot at each node.  Ditto for MchessPro.  But if you want to call Rebel
"knowledged" then we have to call Fritz "knowledged" as well since it is
obviously whacking rebel and everyone else fairly soundly.  And
"knowledge"
is a term I would use *very* loosely when talking about Fritz.  It seems
to
have "good knowledge" but I suspect it is really just "quite finely
tuned
general/simple knowledge" based on the speed it searches.  Of course,
there's
nothing to say that finely tuned simple knowledge can't produce a true
GM
one day either...



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