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Subject: Re: New SSDF-list

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 13:52:00 02/24/98

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>Time will tell.  I disagree.  You can only do so much computing and
>still
>hit an NPS value of X.  Hiarcs is clearly slow.  So I assume it is doing
>a
>lot at each node.  Ditto for MchessPro.  But if you want to call Rebel
>"knowledged" then we have to call Fritz "knowledged" as well since it is
>obviously whacking rebel and everyone else fairly soundly.


I cannot follow this logic.
Fritz outsearches Rebel BECAUSE rebel is slower than Fritz5.
If you watch how rebel plays and how fritz5 plays I wonder that you call
FRITZ knowledged and not rebel ?
I can only take the main-lines and the games as my evidence. You can
call the RESULTS as your evidence.
But the results don't tell us much about HOW the games have been played.
The main-lines and evaluations DO IN FACT tell me much about HOW rebel
works and how fritz5 works.
Fritz5 is stupid, rebel9 is knowledged. Not the way Hiarcs or Mchess is
knowledged (they do it more static) but relatively to fritz.

This is only my little opinion. If you believe more in Fritz, stay free
to do it. I will not use Fritz anyway for my personal analysis or
email-chess, it would be a major mistake to use Fritz5 because it is a
dump program.



> And
>"knowledge"
>is a term I would use *very* loosely when talking about Fritz.  It seems
>to
>have "good knowledge" but I suspect it is really just "quite finely
>tuned
>general/simple knowledge" based on the speed it searches.

?!! Now you sound like myself. Right. Fritz has simple knowledge.



  Of course,
>there's
>nothing to say that finely tuned simple knowledge can't produce a true
>GM
>one day either...

Shit x 1000 is still shit. Although it could kill a GM, e.g. when you
throw 1000 tons of shit over Karpov, he will maybe not only die but also
lose the game therefore. ONE method to win a game of chess ! But not the
method I like.
Sorry.

Sorry. Prejudices. You have yours, I have mine.



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