Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:50:50 01/31/01
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On January 31, 2001 at 10:02:25, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 31, 2001 at 08:35:34, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On January 31, 2001 at 01:00:18, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>http://www.computerschach.de/tourn/cad2001/cad2001.htm >>> >>>In Gadeques tournament Deep Fritz - Shredder 5 ended 10-10. But 14 games were >>>won by white! And I thought, that whites advantage is minimal in computer chess. >>>Have programs killer books or what? >> >>As far as Shredder 5.0 is concerned there are no killer variations. The book is >>made mainly for the human players and with a lot of alternatives to make it play >>different lines. There are very few very long variations. Of course there are >>good move against weak ones, but not deep variations. >>So, it is a sort of compromise to make the program fun to play with. >>Since we drew 6 games and lost 7, there is still a a lot of room for >>improvements... > >I remember the claim that Shredder is 100 elo better than Fritz6a when one of >the reason is better opening book that is optimized for long time control games. > >What happened to this claim(remember that the time control of Enrique is >similiar to the ssdf games when you consider the fact that Enrique's hardwrae is >faster)? > >I think that you should tell the customers some monthes ago that you did a >compromise in order to make the program fun to play with. > >I believe that a lot of customers do not use chess programs to play against them >so making the program fun to play with is simply irrelevant for them because >they prefer an opening book that help the program to win more games. > >Uri Those customers can play at home against computers but i am 100% sure that no customer will play against a SUPER GM at 40 in 2 level. So i think your question to Necchi is very valid. Who cares for a book against humans? The customers only play against other progs anyway and they only kick on results against other engines.
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