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Subject: Re: Elo of Deep Blue

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 12:05:15 03/16/01

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On March 16, 2001 at 14:59:18, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On March 16, 2001 at 00:20:51, Roy Beam wrote:
>[snip]
>>  I think it is a fact that no 2500 player could ever beat garry kasparov in a
>>match short of him falling dead at the board.
>
>You think incorrectly.
>
>According to:
>http://www.fide.org/fide/html/top32.html
>
>Kasparov's ELO is:
>2849
>
>2849-2500 is:
>349
>
>The win expectency for a difference of 349 points is 0.118261
>
>Here is an interesting table:
>Win expectency for a difference of 0 points is 0.5
>Win expectency for a difference of 100 points is 0.359935
>Win expectency for a difference of 200 points is 0.240253
>Win expectency for a difference of 300 points is 0.15098
>Win expectency for a difference of 400 points is 0.0909091
>Win expectency for a difference of 500 points is 0.0532402
>Win expectency for a difference of 600 points is 0.0306534
>Win expectency for a difference of 700 points is 0.0174721
>Win expectency for a difference of 800 points is 0.00990099
>Win expectency for a difference of 900 points is 0.00559197
>Win expectency for a difference of 1000 points is 0.00315231
>
>Therefore, an opponent of ELO 2500 will win a shocking 11% of the points in a
>match with Garry Kasparov.

This is very badly phrased.  In fact, I can't believe I wrote it!

Obviously, it should say:
Therefore, ON AVERAGE, an opponent of ELO 2500 will win a shocking 11% of the
points in a match with Garry Kasparov.

A single match might well be 10-0 for Kasparov, or whatever.  The figures
require a large set of trials.

>
>Now, I suspect that most of those points will be from draws.  But definitely,
>given enough chances, some 2500 ELO person will win.
>
>Say...
>What's this?
>
>[Event "????"]
>[Site "New York"]
>[Date "1997.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Kasparov, G"]
>[Black "Wong, C"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[WhiteElo "2820"]
>[BlackElo "2185"]
>[ECO "D11"]
>[Opening "QGD Slav"]
>[Variation "3.Nf3"]
>
>1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 c6 3. d4 e6 4. cxd5 cxd5 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. e4 dxe4 7. Nxe4 Nf6
>8. Nxf6+ Qxf6 9. Bd3 h6 10. Bd2 Qd8 11. Rc1 Be7 12. Qa4 Bd7 13. Be2 a6 14.
>O-O O-O 15. Qb3 Qc7 16. Ne5 Bd6 17. Bf3 Rfc8 18. Rfe1 a5 19. Bxc6 Bxc6 20.
>Bf4 a4 21. Qe3 Bxe5 22. Bxe5 Qe7 23. Qc3 Qg5 24. f3 Bd5 25. Qxc8+ Rxc8 26.
>Rxc8+ Kh7 27. Rc2 Bxa2 28. Bg3 b5 29. Kh1 Bc4 30. Rec1 f6 31. f4 Qf5 32. h3
>h5 33. Kh2 Qd5 34. Bf2 Qd6 35. g3 h4 36. Rc3 hxg3+ 37. Kxg3 g5 38. Be3
>gxf4+ 39. Bxf4 Qxd4 40. h4 e5 41. Be3 Qe4 42. h5 f5 43. Bc5 Qg4+ 44. Kf2
>Qxh5 45. Kg2 Qg4+ 46. Kh2 Qf4+ 47. Kg1 e4 48. Kh1 Qh4+ 49. Kg2 Qg5+ 50. Kh2
>Qf4+ 51. Kh1 Kg7 52. Rd1 Bd3 53. Bd4+ Kf7 54. Rdc1 Qf3+ 55. Kh2 Qf4+ 56.
>Kh1 Qh4+ 57. Kg1 Qg3+ 58. Kh1 f4 59. b4 axb3 60. Rxb3 f3 61. Rb2 Be2 62.
>Rxe2 fxe2 0-1
>
>Never say never.  Oops.  I just said it.  Twice.



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