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Subject: Re: The End of the Learning Debate

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 10:07:15 03/20/98

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NOT YET. The present situation as Bruce Moreland pointed out is that by
autoplaying and hand tuning his book, a programmer can prepare for X
number of opponents very easily, and if he has the latest program that
gets added
to the SSDF, his program has a huge advantage. To stop this, programmers
should be allowed to deliver/ release an updated book at any time to the
SSDF. Of course this book would have to be released to the public as
well for a fee. It would mean that the programmers would be in the
opening book publishing business, but they are now because most of the
top ones already hire an opening book specialist.

On March 19, 1998 at 15:46:13, Bela Andrew Evans wrote:

>Having read Ed's and other gripes about computer learning in
>computer vs. computer games, it seems to me that this issue
>can really be reduced to the fact that new software has a temporary
>advantage over old software that extends beyond engine improvement.
>
>That is, new chess programs come on CDs, and thus can have huge
>opening books of millions of moves, in addition to more sophisticated
>learning algorithms.
>
>The older programs came on a floppy disk(s) with small and, as in the
>case of Rebel, fairly customized and limited tournament opening
>books.
>
>Inasmuch as these older programs will play the same lines over and
>over, it's no surprise that the newer programs are eating them for
>lunch.
>
>However, as I mentioned above, this advantage is temporary.  Once all
>the new programs come with huge opening books and play sufficiently
>random openings, the better engines will dominate.



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