Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:42:24 03/22/01
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On March 21, 2001 at 22:14:25, Christophe Theron wrote: >On March 21, 2001 at 21:32:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On March 21, 2001 at 19:03:55, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On March 21, 2001 at 18:14:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On March 21, 2001 at 17:30:44, Andrew Dados wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 21, 2001 at 17:00:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 21, 2001 at 16:21:59, Peter Berger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On March 21, 2001 at 15:58:38, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>>>>>Now. Something has gone wrong, either with Fritz reading the TB's, or the TB's >>>>>>>>themselves. Had Fritz just simply advanced the pawn, promoting it, then it was >>>>>>>>a simple win most 1500 player could handle. But for some reason, it wanted to >>>>>>>>chase the king around! The first thing I did, was do a scandisk and check for >>>>>>>>any corrupted TB files. There are none. Then I compared my 5 piece TB size to >>>>>>>>Hyatts on his server. They are both the same. So I would venture to say, >>>>>>>>either Fritz had a problem reading it, or the KRPKR file is corrupt. (However I >>>>>>>>think Hyatt would have caught it by now.) I have had several positions, where I >>>>>>>>look @ the board, and say, "I COULD MATE THIS!" and Fritz draws. WHY? I was >>>>>>>>just curious if anyone else had the problem, and if anyone knew what the problem >>>>>>>>was. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>>>Slate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Also, if you look from #43 to #17 (the second one) the depth is always 1. >>>>>>>>However, then it starts seeing depth 5! With TB's (usually) it documents 1 ply >>>>>>>>only!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This definitely would be a good one for a CCC FAQ . This happens if you have >>>>>>>KRPKR on your harddisk ( which comes with the Fritz CD ) but not the subsets >>>>>>>KRQKR , KRBKR et al . >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The problem is program knows KRPKR with the pawn on b7 is mate in 17 or so ; it >>>>>>>also knows promoting the pawn it will be worse than that ( as it can't find this >>>>>>>in a TB anymore ) . So this can be healed if you download the missing ones ( if >>>>>>>you have enough space on your harddisk ) . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Or if Frans would just fix the program. :) >>>>> >>>>>He, he... I remember when you resisted to do so for quite a while.. :) >>>> >>>> >>>>Yep... Users are generally an unreasonable lot. :) They complain when the >>>>screwdriver handle breaks when it is being used as a hammer. They complain >>>>when the hammer rips the head off of a screw when it is being used as a >>>>screwdriver. >>>> >>>>With today's disk prices, I can not think of a single reason not to simply use >>>>all the 3-4-5 piece files. But some insist. :) >>> >>> >>>Try to install these TB files on a handheld. :) >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>I don't see why it can't be done. My 20 gig drive in my notebook is not much >>larger than a usual PCMCIA card. That would fit into a hand-held quite easily >>if the demand was there... > > >Useability is the key for handheld computers. It could be possible to stuff a >20Gb drive in it, but then with the current battery technology you could not use >it for more than an hour. > >Then the handheld would be heavier, and after carrying it in your pocket for one >month you would probably reconsider the idea. > >Anyway most handheld applications do not need that amount of storage. > >Even 128Mb of storage space, which is possible with today components (DRAM or >Flash), would be far more than enough. > >I guess that users would prefer having wireless access to the Internet, phone >capability, more battery life and a color screen rather than a hard disk. > >The philosophy of developpement for handhelds is very different than for PC, >because resources are a real issue. If I had to develop a chess program for >handheld computers, I would simply forget about bitboards, big hash tables, big >opening books and TBs. > > > > Christophe Based on history, I'll make a wager with you. Within 5 years the _typical_ hand-held will have 20 gigs of disk space. We aren't far away from such disks the size of a quarter (IBM has them working in the lab already). With current drains in the single-digit milliamp range. IE my current Sony notebook is smaller than a sheet of paper, about 1" thick, weighs under 4 pounds, and yet has a 750mhz processor with 256mb of RAM and a 20 gig drive. That is probably the hand-held of 5 years from now...
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