Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes
Date: 12:47:18 04/02/01
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On April 02, 2001 at 13:41:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 02, 2001 at 12:02:11, Uri Blass wrote: > >> >>1)I think that weak players are in no position to say that they could play >>better than kasparov. >> >>I suspect that part of the moves that are considered to be positional mistakes >>are no mistakes because kasparov saw more than the humans who analyzed the >>games. > >I don't see why everyone overlooks this point. DB was a non-trivial opponent >and was seeing a _lot_ tactically. To claim to be able to beat it "chanceless" >is a wild stretch since Kasparov himself couldn't do that, yet he smashes >human opposition every tournament he enters. IE I see _nothing_ to convince >me that Kramnik would do better against DB (or any other program he plays) than >what Kasparov would do. > > >> >>I will trust more the top programs and when I finish my correspondence >>tournament I may give the top programs of today to analyze the positions of >>kasparov-deeper blue for many hours in order to find mistakes in the games. >> >> >>2)I do not think that kasparov had special problems against computers before >>1997. >>Kasparov beated Deep thought easily when karpov had to work hard in order to win >>against deep thought and he did it only thanks to a mistake of deep thought in a >>drawn rook endgame. > >Karpov was a unique problem for computers.. because his "normal" playing >style was closer to "anti-computer" than any other GM I can think of. Yes, >he could play wild tactical games if he wanted, but he generally didn't. I >don't think that when he played DT he was "in his prime" which has a lot to >do with how a human handles a computer. It is mentally challenging to be so >careful to avoid the tiniest tactical mistake... > > >> >>I also remember that kasparov won together with Fritz3(p90) in a blitz >>tournament and later won Fritz3 in a match by lines like 1.e3 >>Kasparov lost against Genius3(p90) 1.5:.5 at 25 minutes per game but later won >>the same program on faster hardware 1.5:.5 at the same time control. >> >>I believe that Kasparov may have better chances today mainly because of the fact >>that he learned to play better thanks to training with computers. >> >>Uri > > >Very possibly true. He obviously is not "over the hill" by any measure I can >think of... Botvinnik was 37 when the became World Champion for the first time in 1948, the very same age Kasparov has today. JAFM
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