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Subject: Re: tiger's play too risky ?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:07:07 04/06/01

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On April 06, 2001 at 15:46:47, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>I believe that eventually the Gambit approach will win. A program with more
>>knowledge about king attacks will very often surprise the old generation
>>programs.
>
>I hope so, too. Your first experiences are very promising and encouraging. Good
>success to Gambit Tiger, I hope it will survive its brother.
>
>Uli

it is unimportant if a move is sound or unsound. Nobody knows this.
as long as the opponent is unable to refute the "unsound" move, it
works.

thats the difference in the point of view lasker
had in relation to steinitz and in relation to tarrasch and even
in relation to capablanca.

lasker new that a player has to be economical with his resources.
that means: in a given time, with a given amount of thinking,
a decision has to be made.

if gambit tiger plays a move that is unsound , and works in a 40/120
game against opponent X, than it is ok so.

we may find out later that the move i not "accurate" as tarrasch would have
said, or capablanca. but this is unimportant. it was enough to bring the plan
gambit-tiger saw to a point.

there is no perfect/best move.
there is no truth in chess.

only mates, or databases have truth. but not the normal game.

lasker knew this. this was ONE reason he was succesful such a long time,
and even although he never had the ambition or will a guy like kasparov or
fischer had.

for him it was only a game, to make money out of it, like bridge, go,
laska, or other card games.

what gambit tiger tries comes close to cstal. only on a different level.
they both betray the opponent.
they do not concentrate on finding best moves.

and that is the same way human chess players play !
if a machine is capable to emulate this kind of playing style,
this kind of plan finding in chess, it will reach a new kind of playing
strength. and you will not be able anymore to solve the turing-test.
you will not be able to find out if this program is a human, or a computer.

how far are we from this target ? a few years ?!

i would like to see more people try out the new paradigm.
but IMO people still don't understand what is meant.

lasker would understand, i am sure.





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