Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 10:46:47 04/09/01
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On April 08, 2001 at 17:07:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On April 08, 2001 at 00:51:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 07, 2001 at 23:31:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 07, 2001 at 18:25:44, robert flesher wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello everyone i downloaded Chess Genius 2 last night.
>>>
>>>Do you mean to the Dos version or to 2.016?
>>>
>>> I must say that anyone
>>>>who likes genius this is a must. I find the interface that comes with Shredder
>>>>is rather poor with a slow mouse response. However this interface is fast and
>>>>simple. For strength i tested it Against good old hiarcs 7.01 30 min each. I
>>>>expected Hiarcs to destroy genius as this is a old program. After Three games 1
>>>>draw two wins for genius. You can imagine my shock.
>>>
>>>Did you use one computer for the test.
>>>
>>>I ask because I have doubts about tests on one computer because one program may
>>>be slowed down by a significant factor.
>>>
>>>
>>> I know everyone This is not
>>>>enough to draw hasty conclusions, although it shows that even old GENIUS2 can
>>>>hold its own to newer commercial programs. Maybe this shouldnt come as a
>>>>surprise as it was this same program that beat Kasparov himself in in 1994 at an
>>>>intel speed tournement.
>>>
>>>No
>>>Genius2.9 that is almost identical to Genius3 won kasparov in 1994.
>>>
>>>Kasparov was wrong to think that he is playing Genius2 and I guess that this is
>>>the reason that he lost.
>>
>>
>>
>>This kind of reasonning is a mystery to me.
>>
>>Can you explain to me why Kasparov (or somebody else) is supposed to have no
>>problem if it is a known program, and be totally disturbed if it is a slightly
>>improved version?
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>The _only_ possible way I can see this is an issue is if Kasparov played some
>games vs Genius 2, and found some "busts". Or mistakes it would make given a
>certain type of position. And then tried to steer the games into those
>positions and discovered that it would not "bite".
>
>To me, that would seem unethical.
>
>And without that reasoning, I can't see how it would make any difference at all
>which version he was playing...
Yes, that's my point.
I don't believe that Genius3 has been such a dramatic improvement over Genius2
that somebody used to Genius2 (and I don't even believe Kasparov was) could have
find himself completely lost in front of the new version.
Christophe
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