Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 23:55:41 04/12/01
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On April 13, 2001 at 00:54:03, Dann Corbit wrote: >On April 13, 2001 at 00:40:47, Uri Blass wrote: > >>It is possible to play gmaes at fixed depth under Deep Fritz. >> >>Did someone try to play tournament between engines at fixed depth in order to >>find out which engine earns more from getting more plies and if there is a >>diminishing return from bigger depth? >> >>I think that it will be intresting to have a rating list of the following >>programs: >> >>Deep Fritz(1 ply) >>Deep Fritz(2 plies) >>Deep Fritz(3 plies) >>... >>Deep Fritz(10 plies) >>Deep Fritz(11 plies) >>Deep Fritz(12 plies) >>Hiarcs7.32(1 ply) >>Hiarcs7.32(2 plies) >>Hiarcs7.32(3 plies) >>... >>Hiarcs7.32(10 plies) >>Gambittiger(x plies) >>Tiger14(x plies) >> >>You can add more programs like Nimzo8 or the latest chessbase version of Crafty. >>The rating of the programs should be based only on games between different >>programs so there should not be games between Deep Fritz(6 plies) and Deep >>Fritz(7 plies) because I remember that when Fritz6 played against itself people >>criticized the experiment and said that it does not prove diminishing returns >>from bigger depth. > >Two problems: >1. Everyone counts depth differently. >2. How do you set up a tournament to play fixed depths? > >The Crafty goes deep and DarkThought goes deep experiments are the only data I >have seen published on increasing ply verses ply+1 self-play. > >What happened with the Fritz tournament? Where is the data? http://supertech.lcs.mit.edu/~heinz/ps/new_exp.ps.gz This spurred some lively debate here - I'm surprised you missed it. Be sure to look through the archives for some good reading. Can't remember the exact date, but it was approximately one year ago... -Peter
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