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Subject: Re: position to analyze from deeper blue-kasparov

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:39:18 05/04/01

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On May 04, 2001 at 11:19:08, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 04, 2001 at 10:41:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
><snipped>
>>There are other possible explanations here too.
>>
>>The most likely is that the first search you gave produced a score for depth
>>16.  It started on depth=17 but failed to produce a score/move before it timed
>>out.
>
>This explanation does not seem to be correct.
>The score of deeper blue was clearly lower after trading queens.
>
>It is known that programs after failing low use more time and I do not see that
>deeper blue used more time for Qxf1.
>It used only 168 seconds for Qxf1 based on the logfile.
>
>Another point is the fact that the score was no constant in the first iterations
>after Qxf1 Rxf1.
>I expect constant score in the first iterations if the score is based on
>previous search.
>
>Uri


Doesn't mean that is what it is doing.  You search to depth=16 and get a score
of (say) +.01

you start the depth=17 search, which is going to drop the score to -.5, but you
don't have time to get the move back.

you make the move and start pondering.

_instantly_ you find the -.5 score as it is left in the transposition table
from the search that timed out.

I see this reasonably often enough on ICC.  And as I said, I do _no_ root
processing of any kind except to enable/disable the trojan check.

The score doesn't have to be constant as the hash entry could be a fail high
or a fail low that influences the score without setting it absolutely.



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