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Subject: Re: If programs are only IM strength, why bother to play Kramnik??

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 17:44:24 05/12/01

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On May 12, 2001 at 17:22:08, Chris Carson wrote:

>On May 12, 2001 at 17:17:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:26:55, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:11:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>In my opinion no program can - on tournament level 40/120 - get more than 2300
>>>>ELO against solid human players. The shorter the time control the higher the
>>>>perfomance of the computer programs. And by the way, the SSDF list is at least
>>>>about 200-300 ELO too high.
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>You have a right to your opinion, however, how do you account fot the
>>>ratings above 2300 at 40/2 by the programs (180+ games)?
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Chris Carson
>>
>>I know that arnold hasidovski got 3 draws against computers in the Israeli
>>league and his rating was only almost 2200.
>>
>>It will be interesting to find the weakest human in human-human games who can
>>beat chess programs in a match.
>>
>>I hope to see a company invites everyone to play against their program in the
>>following conditions:
>>
>>1)The players should pay 200$ for playing a match of 6 games at tournament time
>>control.
>>2)The players get 2000$ if they win the match and 1000$ if they draw the match.
>>
>>The idea is to attract only weak players in human-human games who believe that
>>they can beat the program.
>>
>>I guess that the money is not enough to convince the strong GM's and is not
>>enough to convince weaker players unless they believe they have practical chance
>>to get at least 3-3 against the program.
>>
>>Uri
>
>That is an interesting idea, I myself would enter that.  :)  However,
>I think you would still get some strong local players (NM, FM, IM's and
>maybe local GM's), but that might not be a bad thing.  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

I would also agree to take the challenge. And you can believe me that I cannot
easily afford $200!
S.Taylor



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