Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 13:49:15 05/29/01
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On May 28, 2001 at 16:17:10, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 28, 2001 at 12:01:50, Ricardo Gibert wrote: > >>On May 28, 2001 at 11:04:32, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 2001 at 02:22:46, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>You can justify almost anything with this. For instance: An individual could >>>>"justify" cheating, since the other cheaters would otherwise have an unfair >>>>advantage. Silly. >>>> >>>>It is sufficient to acknowledge that *everything* we do is built upon the work >>>>of others. As long as acknowledge this and pay them their due, you've already >>>>done everthing you are ethically required to do. >>>> >>>>With the the Nalimov TBs, you only need to ask his permission, give credit where >>>>credit is due and to say "thank you". >>> >>>Out of everything you said, that last sentence leaves me the most "chilled". >>> >>>IE, in my case, I got code from Eugene, he has access to my code in return. >>>We _both_ gain, as if he decides to write a new chess engine, he has samples >>>for lots of current ideas. Should I decide to write yet another TB generator, >>>I have samples from him for current ideas. >>> >>>In the case of the commercial programs, _what_ does he get in return? >>> >>>zilch... >>> >>>That has _always_ been a bothersome point to me... >> >> >>I wouldn't be surprised if the commercials sent him free copies of the latest >>version of their program to him all the time. Only a lunatic would have the >>cheek to charge him for a copy. > > >That's not the same thing at all. He provides source code, ideas, explanations >in the comments, etc. Giving him a copy of a commercial engine doesn't give >him anything like what he gave them. IE he gets a "black box" that he can >play chess against. > >The swap sees extremely one-sided to me... Almost like letting commercial systems use crafty as an analysis engine. ;-)
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