Author: william penn
Date: 12:11:41 06/05/01
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On June 05, 2001 at 11:33:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 05, 2001 at 00:16:18, william penn wrote: > >> >> >> HOW can this grandmaster make this claim based on one game? Sounds to me like >>he is one of those group of grandmasters that are threatened by the growing >>strength of computers. By the way Gm Dreev after drawing this same deep shredder >>says that it would get a highier elo than 2500 if it competes in fide >>tournaments. Who's opinion would you take a 2541 grandmaster or a 2650 elo Gm >>who has played more than one game, but many games at 40/2, so far he has played >>three 40/2 games vs deep shredder. Go to the rebel page and you will hear other >>grandmasters say the same thing. I am willing to bet that this grandmaster that >>you played, has a certain system he uses regulary to beat computers, so he >>basically wins the same type of game more than once. This has nothing to do with >>chess strength, for if the computer was conscious it would avoid such lines >> > > >You are typically "missing the point." A 2600 Human would _never_ play moves >like Shredder did. _never_. A computer can play a 2800 game one time, and >a 2100 game the next time. A 2600 human will never do that. Both will make >an occasional blunder, to be sure. But _no_ human rated even 1800 would play >some of those moves Shredder played. > >you can't be a 2600 player if you play 1600-level moves from time to time. >It just won't work. Then by your own logic Bob Byatt Deep Blue is not a 2600 player, since it made moves all throughtout the match with kasparov that was laughed at by grandmasters particulary in Game 1, i have read several annotations on the games, and Deep Blue was critized by Gm's as a totally pazter, yet it was able to defeat kasparov, which makes me wonder how they can think the thing plays so badly. But as i said before, how a programs plays to achieve results is irrelevant, what is important is that it achieves those results. MANY
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