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Subject: Re: What ever Happened to Kaissia and Ostrich?

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 11:44:29 06/28/01

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On June 28, 2001 at 03:48:27, David Blackman wrote:

>On June 28, 2001 at 00:21:30, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>What did the programmers involved go on to do? Are their programs available?
>
>I did a websearch on some of the Kaissa programmers a while back and turned up
>only a few computer chess history pages. If they have web pages of their own
>they are hiding from the search engines well. I guess they would be in Russian
>anyway. It's also worth noting that the Kaissa team would be getting quite old
>now, and perhaps some of them are dead. I vaguely remember reading they had
>trouble getting computer access for chess purposes in the mid 1970s. That might
>not have improved until affordable micros with reasonable power reached Russia
>(circa 1988?).
>
>I think Ostrich was Monty Newborn's. He was and maybe still is Professor in the
>School of Computer Science at McGill University. He doesn't seem to have his own
>web page at the University. He was publishing academic papers, including some
>about computer chess, until recently. I don't remember hearing about him having
>a program competing anywhere since the 1980s.
>
>I think both of these old programs were in assembly language. To run them you
>would most likely need a very old computer (IBM 360 compatible mainframe for
>Kaissa, was it some kind of Honeywell for Ostrich?). The programs were most
>likely stored on a large deck of punched cards. I'm not sure if anyone would
>have bothered to store them for such a long time after the computers were
>obsolete. Think of several thousand punched cards and the space needed to store
>them.

Some of Kaissa versions were written in Fortran. And Mikhail Donskoy ported it
to PC -- at least he had a PC version back in 1991. Don't know on which
languuage it was written, and which compiler he used.

Eugene



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