Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:44:00 07/03/01
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On July 03, 2001 at 14:52:23, Sune Larsson wrote: >On July 03, 2001 at 11:24:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 03, 2001 at 09:08:15, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On July 03, 2001 at 08:55:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On July 03, 2001 at 03:24:25, Adolfo Bormida wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 02:10:32, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 01:08:54, Tony Asdourian wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>CT just beat a second GM, this one rated 2550 or so. Apparently made a really >>>>>>>nice sac in the process. I've always been quite impressed with Fritz6, but >>>>>>>looking at what CT 14.0 and GT2 are doing reminds me of the old Novag and RISC >>>>>>>2500 dedicated computers, which for their time played with attacking flair but >>>>>>>were also more than just tactical monsters, they seemed to "enjoy" playing >>>>>>>aggresively. It is fun to watch this new program play so well. The online >>>>>>>interview with Christopher Theron he gave recently is also the most revealing >>>>>>>I've read from a top programmer in quite a while. >>>>>> >>>>>>It's game against Rodriguez was good, but this one was really pathetic. What the >>>>>>heck was Ricardi thinking when he played the opening? He fell for a fairly basic >>>>>>tactic on move 7 leaving him much worse and by move 13 he's down a pawn. After >>>>>>that it was just a matter of time. Really not a lot to say about it other than >>>>>>it was a point for Tiger. >>>>>> >>>>>> Albert >>>>> >>>>>Hi Albert >>>>>I'm not agree! Ricardi was played the oppenning not well. Then in move 13th. He >>>>>sac a pawn for some compensation according Ricardi's comments after the game 1) >>>>>Can castling 2)Use the Open c file. If you can see the evaluation 12..., Ne7 is >>>>>the second choice at ply 14 according ChessTiger. I think when you say "this one >>>>>was really pathetic" you are using a very strong word and you no have respect >>>>>for a 2550 GM! (who beat Karpov last year). Can you be sure than you can beat >>>>>the "patetic Ricardi" after move 13? >>>>> >>>>>No offense, not missunderstand me. English is not my native language and only >>>>>give my view. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, Adolfo >>>> >>>>Ricardi isn't a very good computer opponent. Against Crafty on ICC, he has >>>>won 23, lost 129, drawn 16. >>> >>>It means almost 20% >>> >>>What is the time control of these games? >>> >>> Against scrappy he has lost 2 but that is all he >>>>has played. Other GMs do much better than that. >>> >>>What is the score of Crafty and Scrappy against GM's at standard time control at >>>the same time that Ricardi got the +23 -129 =16? >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Crafty has done well at longer time controls. But again, because most GM >>players prefer to play "real chess" rather than "anti-computer chess" against >>it. I am sure Ricardi could do better, _if_ he was willing to change his style >>to avoid the strengths of the computer. See my response to Dan to see what I >>mean... > > Ok, another aspect is that playing your "normal chess" or as you say, > "real chess" aginst a top program, opens up real good options for training > and gives you a tremendous challenge. I find those possibilities more > interesting than repeated "anti-computer" strategies. Though the latter would > fall into the category "computer weaknesses" and might serve as study material > for the programmers to do list. > > Sune I agree 100%. A GM knows he will never face a computer in a real rated FIDE event. So preparation is a waste of time. But let computers play in any FIDE event, and let them actually start winning _prizes_ and I'll bet there will be a _whole_ lot of studying going on, real fast. :)
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