Author: Tony Werten
Date: 01:09:24 07/11/01
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On July 10, 2001 at 11:52:38, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On July 10, 2001 at 02:46:24, Tony Werten wrote: > >>>What if I had bought a computer for this last week? Suddenly I get there and >>>I'm not competitive because I assumed, with a month left, that it was a >>>single-processor event. >> >>I have to disagree. Last year multiprocessors machines were not banished from >>the event. The just had to show they were only using one processor.( Diep and >>Junior if I remember correctly ) >> >>If your program benefits from multiprocessor and you want to play at tournaments >>and you then buy a single processor, then your choice was wrong. > >I don't understand this. In my house I have a 550 mhz P3. I have a Quad 450 >Xeon. The first is not competitive, the second is too big to consider taking on >an airplane again. Do you really think this quad is much better than a 1.3 Ghz AMD ? > >The event has been a single-processor event. Where did you read this ? It has been a pc event. 10 years ago 100 Mhz was a fast pc, nowadays multiprocessors are normal in pc's. Should they go back to 286- 16Mhz because that was normal a while ago ? Last year it was single processor. Correct. Last year it was below 1Ghz as well. And last but not least it was in Londen. Don't expect to be able to play however if you show up with your computer in London. Things change. >If I had ordered a computer last >week, a single-processor machine, because this is a single-processor event, >I would have potentially spent a lot of money on an uncompetitive machine. That's the risk you run if a you buy something on what you believe others are going to ask. Again, who of the organising commite told you it was going to be single processor ? > >>Second, for most people the difference between a single and a multiprocessor >>does not make the difference between being competitive or not. It's the same >>discussion every year before such an event. Program A is going to win because >>the processor is 50% faster than program B. It's just not true, as is shown >>every year after the event. Of course, faster (or more) processors help. But not >>that much. > >This is bull. You ask what Chessbase is going to bring. You ask what everyone >is going to bring. All the commercials will be on the hottest stuff they can >find, and it does matter a whole lot. > >People spend months trying to scrape 10% performance out of their engine, How much ELO is 10% ? Maybe almost 5 ? >and >yet a speed factor of 2 or 3 doesn't matter? No. Reread. It did not say it didn't matter. I said it didn't matter that much. Of course the professionals show up with more heavy material than most amateurs. They have always done that, and they always will. That's a big part of the difference between amateurs and professionals, the amount of money they can spend. They don't care where the events is held, they can afford the airtickets. Of course it would be nice to have all the tickets paid. But it's not the 90's anymore. Computerchess is not that popular anymore, so they didn't find a sponsor willing to pay that much money. Maybe next year, maybe never again. Tony > >People want to take this event seriously, and it's seriously screwed that the >organizers don't. > >bruce
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