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Subject: Re: Computer invented openings?

Author: Mike Adams

Date: 09:14:37 07/13/01

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On July 12, 2001 at 17:19:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 12, 2001 at 16:59:45, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 12, 2001 at 15:35:47, Larry Oliver wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Starting with its book turned off and left to its own devices, could todays top
>>>programs on a very fast computer with say 12 hours per move think time, invent
>>>the standard openings?
>>
>>Have not tested it lately, but Crafty used to like to play the Sicilian dragon,
>>if you remove the opening book.
>
>Larry suggested to test it at 12 hours per move on a very fast computer(see
>above).
>>
>>>If so, that would seem to prove the old standard openings
>>>are completely sound.
>>
>>Nothing of the sort.  It would prove that there are no tactical gaffes within
>><n> ply, where <n> is however deep the computer succeeded in diving.
>>
>>>If not, considering how good modern programs/machines are,
>>>would this not seem to indicate something is wrong with the openings?
>>
>>Ha ha!
>>Delete your opening book and then play against GM's on ICC (or other programs
>>equipped with a good book).
>
>This experiment is irrelevant because Larry talked about 12 hours per move and
>unfortuantely the GM's on ICC do not play at these time control.
>
>Uri
I think he meant have it generate its opening book at 12 hours a move. Then with
the book go into a normal GM game. Still probably to long to generate all the
opening moves needed.  One problem with having a computer generate the opening
is as Bruce said they tend to play conservatively.  This is in part because no
special evaluation routines are programmed into any program for generating
opening moves.  Mike Adams



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