Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 02:19:10 07/20/01
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On July 20, 2001 at 04:35:53, José Carlos wrote: >On July 19, 2001 at 17:33:54, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 19, 2001 at 16:49:11, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >> >>>Excerpt from the Chessbase page of the latest report from Dortmund : >>> >>>http://www.chessbase.com/events/dortm01/dortm03.htm >>> >>><snip> >>>"In the Man vs Machine match Dr Robert Hübner, playing with the white pieces, >>>offered his opponent Deep Fritz a draw after 21 moves. The operator accepted, >>>even though Fritz thought it was slightly ahead in the game. The score between >>>the two is now 2:2. The last two games will be played on Saturday and Sunday." >>><snip> >>> >>> >>>Probably when the operator pressed the button "Offer Draw" Fritz answered "I >>>think that the game is still quite interesting , let's play on", but the human >>>operator didn't want to disappoint Dr. Hubner. >>> >>>Regards. >> >>I think that operators of chess programs should not have the right to decide if >>to agree to a draw. >>It is something that only the machines should have the right to decide about. > > It's not so easy. There're several cases that should be handled by the >operator. For example: a dead draw ending where the program thinks he's slightly >better because of a bishop vs knight. After 20 moves Bf1,Be2,Bd3,Bc2... the draw >should be accepted by the operator. > Besides, since most human players don't like to play computers, you have to be >careful not to make angry the few that play with them. I don't mean accepting >the draw everytime, of course, but sometimes it's clear for the human, although >the program has no clue. > Finally, if the operator us the programmer, I think he should always have the >right to accept a draw. Fully agreed. You can't insult a GM by insisting on the truth of some program's score. Otherwise the general acceptance of computer opponents in human tourneys/matches will decrease further. The operator in a game against a master player should have sufficient chess competence to make such decision. I'm sure, that the Fritz operator against Hübner has. In particular Hübner had refused to play programs for years. I was very surprised to hear that he's playing a match aginst Fritz. Uli > > José C. > >>I think that the operator was simply lazy and this is one of the main reasons >>for the fact that Deep Fritz did not win the 4th game. >> >>I think that it is better to say usually no to draw offers unless the position >>is a simple draw or the opponent has a simple way to force at least a draw. >> >>Uri
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