Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:51:32 07/31/01
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On July 31, 2001 at 15:10:47, Joshua Lee wrote: > >>If their evaluation numbers were so wrong, and their search was so weak, _I_ >>for one wish I could make those same mistakes. What other program has come >>close to beating a current world champion in a match? Particularly when it >>was obvious that Kasparov wasn't "playing for a draw in any game."\ > > >Since Deep Blue isn't around playing games these days the only "Real" >Competition That is on the level of DeepThought or Blue would be Cray Blitz. >How does CB compare to the Deep's? I know DT could be searching 10Ply find a >move but a regular Fritz might take 20+ ply I am guessing that CB is closer to >the Deep's than your average program ... What kind of differences between Cray >and Commercials are there in eval "IF" that's a BIG "IF" eval is the main >difference between the two. Same goes for Deep Blue some think Deep Fritz is as >good if not better if running at 200Mnps but i can only listen to all the sides >and look at the evidence which Deep Fritz is better if you look at the logs >...... I can't agree with this as the logs are weird and Amir Ban couldn't make >any sense of them > >Not to be a conspiracy theorist but If IBM said they didn't have the logs (for >Kasparov) then they come up with logs how can we know that they weren't created >or doctored??? IBM never said they didn't have the logs. They said they were hard to read. They were correct. I saw DT run for many games. Its output was messy and hard to read. They cleaned them up and released them... > >The only way to really know is to Play against it or know how it ticks and i >don't know if Hsu is going to ever tell but i bet that Kramnik will hear from >IBM after he smokes Deep Fritz (I think he's gonna start smoking again)
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