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Subject: Re: What are you talking about?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 01:52:12 08/08/01

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On August 08, 2001 at 04:21:56, Adam Oellermann wrote:

>
>>Terrible example, but I got Ricardo's point. Let's get a better example:
>>In many (most?) places in US it is illegal for mothers to breastfeed their
>>babies in public (and there are many other idiotic laws but this one will
>>suffice). Even in a parking lot, inside your car.
>>Some people breastfeed anyway just because they do not know the law or
>>because they *believe* that the law is outrageous and even anti-constitutional
>>or because righteously believe that their children are first.
>>Would i judge them as doing something wrong? of course not, in fact I admired
>>them to follow what they think is correct in their conscience.
>>You present a very linear picture of what is right or wrong, based upon the
>>written law. It is not that linear. If it were, we would have burocratic
>>employees doing the justice rather than judges and jurors. There is always
>>interpretation and there are always laws that contradict each other and many
>>that contradict the Constitution. It is not an exact science, because the
>>concept of "right" and "wrong" it is not black and white. There is a lot of
>>greys.
>>Particularly in US, there are lots of people that were willing to disobey the
>>written law just to have the chance to go to court and show that the law is..
>>illegal... (anti-constitutional for instance). Right or wrong Larry Flint comes
>>to mind. Disobedience is not always a bad thing, and besides, US was built on
>>disobedience (the second amendment is still there as a living proof).
>>Chaos is not good, but a perfect order (monopoly) is also bad. When you have
>>sumise people willing to accept everything you are in real trouble as a country.
>>
>
>I don't get this argument. Microsoft are not imposing terms on anyone. They are
>not making "laws". The software license is a voluntary agreement - if you don't
>like it, don't enter into the agreement - ie don't buy the software. The idea
>that you can't buy a computer without Windows installed is rubbish, in my
>experience. At the very worst, you can buy the parts and assemble them.
>
>- Adam

It makes a difference if they are a monopoly.



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