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Subject: Re: AP downloads, ratings and the latest results now online ...

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 15:03:50 08/23/01

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On August 23, 2001 at 08:01:56, Jeff Lischer wrote:

>On August 23, 2001 at 05:59:28, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2001 at 00:20:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2001 at 21:35:14, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>>>
>>>>my emperiment "Amateurs vs. Professionals" is now over (the right time, WM is
>>>>running ... good timing :-)) ).
>>>>
>>>>You can find all "AP" results in a table in my News Ticker.
>>>>You can find all 1.440 games in CBH and PGN and a rating list (all engines are
>>>>playing 180 games).
>>>>
>>>>I have a lot of fun with the AP tournaments, maybe I more fun if Gandalf won
>>>>more tourneys :-))
>>>>
>>>>Amateurs vs. Professionals:
>>>>http://www.amateurschach.de/schach/cbase/experiment.htm
>>>>
>>>>All results available in my News Ticker:
>>>>http://www.amateurschach.de/news.htm
>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>
>>>>Have now a nice latest WM day.
>>>>
>>>>Best
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>The result prove that the professionals are clearly better than the amatuers.
>>>The best amatuer Goliath Light got less points than the worse proffesional
>>>Nimzo8.
>>>
>>>It seems that in a tournament of 180 games the amatuers have no practical chance
>>>to win.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Yes in 180 game tournaments (the statistical error is very low), but in a 9 game
>>tournament like the WMCCC 2001 there is nearby all possible. In Frank's test,
>>the amateurs wins 3 of 20 tournaments. In his tournaments Fritz is the strongest
>>engine, but it wins only 4 or 5 times.
>>
>>Andreas
>
>Also, Tiger was the 2nd strongest engine, but finished tied for 14th-15th in one
>tournament -- a tournament won by the 11th strongest SOS. Frank's experiment
>really highlights how *anything* can happen in short tournaments like WMCCC.
>Thanks for the great job Frank!

Hi,

thanks for your comment ...
More games and tourneys are better but I think 20 are enough.

Best
Frank



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