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Subject: Re: A proposed WAC replacement for testing

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:29:27 09/19/01

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On September 19, 2001 at 03:54:57, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>I ran for two minutes per position in K=2 mode, and here is what I came up with.
>
>It's hard to decide exactly what constitutes a cook.  In purest sense, a cook
>should be a mate that is no slower than the key allows.
>
>I think that positions with approximately the same large score could be
>confusing, and I found a lot of those.
>
>I would throw these out, to be safe.
>
>Your mileage may vary.
>
>bruce
>
>---------------
>
>Id:  ECM.973
>Fen: 2r2bk1/4qp2/3n2p1/2R1p1Np/2p1N3/r6P/1Q3PP1/3R2K1 w - - 0 1
>Qxa3 is +3, the key, Rxc8 is +4.

1.Qxa3 Ne4 2.Nxe4 Rxc5 3.Rd7 Qe6 4.Rd8 Qe7

I believe that 5.Rxf8+ is winning for white but programs need time to find this
move and usually prefer at small depthes Re8 that probably leads to a draw

If Ferret evalutes 5.Re8 as +3 and not +1 for white then it seems that it has a
poblem in it's evaluation function

Here is Junior's evaluation for 5.Re8

It needs very small depth and less than 1 second on p200 to understand that the
score should not be +3 for white

Deep Fritz also does not see +3 score for white.

New position
[D]3R1bk1/4qp2/6p1/2r1p2p/2p1N3/Q6P/5PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 7:

5.Rd1 Rb5
  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
5.Ra8 Rc7 6.Nf6+ Qxf6 7.Qxf8+
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
5.Rxf8+ Kxf8 6.Nxc5 Qd8
  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
5.Rxf8+ Qxf8 6.Nxc5 Qd8 7.Ne4
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  4kN
5.Re8!
  ±  (1.37)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  7kN
5.Re8! Qxe8 6.Nf6+ Kh8 7.Nxe8 Kh7
  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  9kN
5.Re8 Qxe8 6.Nf6+ Kh8 7.Nxe8 c3 8.Nf6 c2 9.Qc1
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  37kN
5.Re8 Qxe8 6.Nf6+ Kh8 7.Nxe8 c3 8.Nf6 c2 9.Qc1 Rc6 10.Nd7 Bd6
  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  226kN



Uri



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