Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: More about Knowledge Vs Fast Searchers

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 14:18:37 05/22/98

Go up one level in this thread


On May 22, 1998 at 15:58:44, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On May 22, 1998 at 15:41:28, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>c) The speed of a program is in itself a measure of knowledge in
>>computer terms. Is very simplistic to see speed as a thing-as-such or as
>>a  das ding an sich  in Katinan terms: this is for Thorsten   :-) and
>>independent of knowledge. You do with great speed what you know well.
>>That is called  mastery  in any art or craft. It involves that a cluster
>>of efficient proceedings are being used to discard unrelevant issues on
>>the run..
>>
>>Fernando
>
>I see your effort like Dons effort to put me into a b/w light.
>I am able to understand about the points.
>You can try to keep me informed. But if you try to inform me about a
>thing, and adress personally, because YOU think i don't know about this
>- or if you think I would think about this topic, thats your decision.
>But I do not work as you claim. And I do not behave like Descartes or
>fall in the trap of aristotelic-logic. I am able to integrate
>superpositions in my life.
>I don't need to think in  binary trees or wrong/right-point of views.
>Fritz is not the opposite of what i like. It does not divide me into
>pieces.
>It is nothing more than a weak playing chess program in my eyes.
>I do not hate Frans Morsch or say he isn't a genius.
>Why do you project (you or Don) these clichees into me when there is no
>reason ?
>It only tells me about you, not much about myself.


Thorsten,

I see you constantly post about knowledge and search speed as if
it is completely separate,  there is some reason to believe you
do indeed partition this stuff into black and white.  Generally
you seem to view speed contempously and knowledge with warmth.

But this is only my general impression, forgive me if I am wrong
here.

I like to view a chess program as a "black box" that spits out
moves.  We don't care what happens inside the box, and whatever
happens there is hidden from view.   A good question for all of
us is could we really tell the difference if we could not see
node counts, iteration numbers and claims of speed.  What if all
we saw as output was a move?   Could you identify the fast
programs?

- Don





This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.