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Subject: Re: Deep Fritz & SMP............

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 15:47:13 10/19/01

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On October 19, 2001 at 11:12:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 18, 2001 at 23:48:08, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>Eval with 2 CPUs:
>>
>>Deep Fritz - W,S
>>4qknr/r1b2pp1/2Q1p3/2PpP1Bp/3P1N1N/8/P4PPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8
>>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1
>>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 Kd7
>>  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>1.Qxe6!
>>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>1.Qxe6! fxe6
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  8kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  14kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  35kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7
>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  97kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  235kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.28)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:00  518kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 g6
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:01  1358kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rc1 Rxd4 6.Ng6 Ra4
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:02  2721kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ne7 5.Bxe7 Kxe7 6.Ra1 Ra4
>>  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:06  7203kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 14/31   00:00:13  15955kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 15/35   00:00:30  35300kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rd1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 16/37   00:01:17  91981kN
>>
>>(W,  18.10.2001)
>>
>>Eval with 1 CPU:
>>
>>Deep Fritz - W,S
>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 Kd7
>>  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>1.Qxe6!
>>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>1.Qxe6! fxe6
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  8kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  14kN
>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  35kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7
>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  96kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  235kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.28)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:00  518kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 g6
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:01  1341kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rc1 Rxd4 6.Ng6 Ra4
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:02  2697kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ne7 5.Bxe7 Kxe7 6.Ra1 Ra4
>>  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 13/32   00:00:06  7357kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 14/34   00:00:13  15576kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 15/35   00:00:31  37201kN
>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rd1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 16/36   00:01:20  96223kN
>>
>>(W,  18.10.2001)
>>
>>
>>Review:
>>
>>2 CPUs:  1,194,558 nps
>>
>>1 CPU:   1,202,787 nps
>>
>>And just for reference:
>>
>>Fritz 6 "Fritzmark" = 1330k nps
>>
>>Interesting, ah?
>>
>>
>>
>>Slate
>
>
>First, there are two ways to compute NPS:
>
>NPS=TotalNodes/CpuTime;
>
>NPS=TotalNodes/ElapsedTime;
>
>Either one is perfectly reasonable.  The first gives "average NPS per
>processor", the second gives "average NPS overall".
>
>In your case above, it doesn't look like DF got _anything_ from the second
>processor, looking at the time taken to reach depth 15.  30 seconds vs 31
>seconds suggests that either (a) your machine is not using the second
>processor (this usually happens when someone tries to use windows 98, etc,
>rather than win2K).  Or else something else is running and using one of
>the two processors heavily...

Win2k reports that the exe is getting 50% with 1 thread, and anywhere from 60% -
80% with 2.  And the rest going to idle time.

I've done this test on several positions, and it's always the same.  1 CPU is
faster.

It's pretty weird.  No other engines have this problem.



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