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Subject: Re: Deep Fritz & SMP............

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 19:32:52 10/19/01

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there is a bug in your system or software if you get
only 60-80% system time. You should get like 98% to 100% system time
for it.

perhaps hashtables too big?

On October 19, 2001 at 18:47:13, Slater Wold wrote:

>On October 19, 2001 at 11:12:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 18, 2001 at 23:48:08, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>Eval with 2 CPUs:
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz - W,S
>>>4qknr/r1b2pp1/2Q1p3/2PpP1Bp/3P1N1N/8/P4PPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>>
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8
>>>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1
>>>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 Kd7
>>>  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>>1.Qxe6!
>>>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>>1.Qxe6! fxe6
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  8kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  14kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nfg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  35kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7
>>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  97kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  235kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.28)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:00  518kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 g6
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:01  1358kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rc1 Rxd4 6.Ng6 Ra4
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:02  2721kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ne7 5.Bxe7 Kxe7 6.Ra1 Ra4
>>>  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:06  7203kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 14/31   00:00:13  15955kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 15/35   00:00:30  35300kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rd1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 16/37   00:01:17  91981kN
>>>
>>>(W,  18.10.2001)
>>>
>>>Eval with 1 CPU:
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz - W,S
>>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>>
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 Kd7
>>>  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>>1.Qxe8+ Kxe8 2.Ra1 f6 3.exf6 gxf6
>>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  1kN
>>>1.Qxe6!
>>>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>>1.Qxe6! fxe6
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00  4kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  8kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  14kN
>>>1.Qxe6 fxe6 2.Nhg6+ Qxg6 3.Nxg6+
>>>  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  35kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7
>>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  96kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  235kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Rc1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.28)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:00  518kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 g6
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:01  1341kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rc1 Rxd4 6.Ng6 Ra4
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:02  2697kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ne7 5.Bxe7 Kxe7 6.Ra1 Ra4
>>>  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 13/32   00:00:06  7357kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 14/34   00:00:13  15576kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Rxa2 5.Ng6 Kf7 6.Nf4 Ba5
>>>  +-  (2.47)   Depth: 15/35   00:00:31  37201kN
>>>1.Qxe6 Qxe6 2.Nxe6+ fxe6 3.Ng6+ Ke8 4.Nxh8 Ra4 5.Rd1 Ne7 6.Bxe7 Kxe7
>>>  +-  (2.53)   Depth: 16/36   00:01:20  96223kN
>>>
>>>(W,  18.10.2001)
>>>
>>>
>>>Review:
>>>
>>>2 CPUs:  1,194,558 nps
>>>
>>>1 CPU:   1,202,787 nps
>>>
>>>And just for reference:
>>>
>>>Fritz 6 "Fritzmark" = 1330k nps
>>>
>>>Interesting, ah?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Slate
>>
>>
>>First, there are two ways to compute NPS:
>>
>>NPS=TotalNodes/CpuTime;
>>
>>NPS=TotalNodes/ElapsedTime;
>>
>>Either one is perfectly reasonable.  The first gives "average NPS per
>>processor", the second gives "average NPS overall".
>>
>>In your case above, it doesn't look like DF got _anything_ from the second
>>processor, looking at the time taken to reach depth 15.  30 seconds vs 31
>>seconds suggests that either (a) your machine is not using the second
>>processor (this usually happens when someone tries to use windows 98, etc,
>>rather than win2K).  Or else something else is running and using one of
>>the two processors heavily...
>
>Win2k reports that the exe is getting 50% with 1 thread, and anywhere from 60% -
>80% with 2.  And the rest going to idle time.
>
>I've done this test on several positions, and it's always the same.  1 CPU is
>faster.
>
>It's pretty weird.  No other engines have this problem.



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