Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 22:47:16 11/07/01
Go up one level in this thread
On November 07, 2001 at 21:48:47, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>Hi Christophe,
>
>>> There is absolutely no reason to limit the posts here to any particular
>>> language, English or otherwise. There is nothing in the CCC Charter that
>>> states that this is an English message board, or that languages other than
>>> English are not welcome.
>>>Therefore, your request is not valid, and in somewhat poor taste....
>
>> Il a raison et je ne vois vraiment pas le mauvais goût dans ce qu'il dit.
>> Quant au fait que l'anglais ne soit pas obligatoire ici, je crois que de fait
>> ça l'est devenu. Je ne m'en plains d'ailleurs pas, c'est tout simplement la
>> seule et unique façon de pouvoir communiquer entre nous.
>> Pas vrai?
>
>Zum Glück funktioniert mein Schulfranzösisch noch so gut, daß ich Dich ganz gut
>verstehe, Christophe, auch ohne Babelfish... bloß antworten tue ich Dir nicht in
>französisch, dazu brauche ich das Wörterbuch zu oft...
>
>WOW, international... :) Okay, I translate myself... (My sentences not yours)
>To my luck my school-french works good enoug to understand you, Christoph, even
>without babelfish... but I do not answer you in french because for that I would
>need the dictionary to often...
>
>You completely miss the point. Look at Eduard - he can nearly nothing in english
>- anyway his games are interesting and we see quite often long threads about
>them. So will you forbid him to post here ?
I have never said that he should not post here.
Anyway he posts as far as he can in english, and it's good enough that everybody
understands him, and that he will eventually improve his english.
Frank Quisinsky is in the same case. He makes efforts, he is improving, and we
appreciate.
I have never seen somebody unable to write a sentence in english posting here.
Maybe we are missing great people because of this, but maybe they are missing us
as well, so...
But they could post, and they would probably find somebody nice enough to do
some translation for the rest of us.
>Fully clear is, that main language
>IS english, but if someone has problems to get understood or search help or
>anything else and can only do that in a different language I would be the last
>one who get angry about it, especially when Eduard is so kind to mark his
>postings also with (German) - you were not so kind to mark your posting with
>(French).
>But I also agree with Sarah's point - if possible one should try to explain in
>english... I know my english is very bad, but I try - there are often some sort
>of things which I would like to say in german because I think I know a little
>bit more words in german and my feeling for the language is much better - it is
>sometimes not easy to prevent you from saying something offensive which is not
>thought as offensive, simply because you are not good enough in that language...
>same vice versa - I might get angry about something that was in reality fully
>different in sense...
>In case of Eduard and Slate the somehow german thread did get a little bit
>longer... but is that such a big problem ? No tolerance in Gouadeloupe about
>those who does not speak english ?
You miss the point here, I did not say it was forbidden.
Just that if somebody is known to be able to write in english, then he should at
least add a short english translation at the end of his non-english text.
If I post something in french here, people will get the impression that I only
want french or french reading people understand what I say.
>So let it like it is, I think it is working fine. And I promise this was the
>last time I write german in this club - when you promise that you stop that
>french... okay ?! :)
I have done it a few times in the past, but I always added an english
translation. I have not done it in the previous post on purpose.
>But be tolerant about Eduard. How many postings are this ?
I think I'm quite tolerant. I don't think that my point is showing intolerance.
>1% 0.1% 0.01% - is that of any importance ?
I can't judge if I don't understand the content.
>By the way - I am administrator of the winboard-forum which is also
>international, not nearly as big as the CCC, but it is also not what I would say
>small... from time to time we had any language there, spain, italian, german,
>serbish, hungary... whatever... Noone ever complaints about that - it is of no
>importance after all... good is that everybody gets help and someone to discuss
>- that's the reason behind those forums - my opinion. English is the main
>language because the biggest group can understand that - but it can't be the
>only language because some people would be out else... keep cool...
On the other hand CCC would not be as interesting if it was split in group of
people talking to each other in their own language.
I don't say it's forbidden, I just want to stress out the fact that it makes the
place less interesting.
Christophe
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.