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Subject: Re: 10th WCCC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:58:42 11/19/01

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On November 17, 2001 at 04:14:38, Tony Werten wrote:

>On November 15, 2001 at 17:52:27, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2001 at 14:28:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:52:07, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:21:45, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 15, 2001 at 13:13:08, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You seem to overlook the CCT tournaments of which there have been three so far
>>>>>>with a fourth not far away.  These are, in some respect at least, American
>>>>>>tournaments as they run on an American server, with a large number of American
>>>>>>programs (11 out of 32 in the last tournament).
>>>>>
>>>>>Lets please not compare real-life tournaments to semi-serious internet
>>>>>events.
>>>>
>>>>What makes an internet tournament any less real or serious that any other
>>>>tournament?  I have participated in both types of tournaments, and they seem
>>>>equally real to me.  I can assure you that they were taken pretty seriously by
>>>>most participants.
>>>
>>>I do not consider an internet tournament as serious as a real
>>>tournament.
>>>
>>>Also, I was referring to organizing one.
>>
>>The contention was made that computer chess is dead in America.
>
>I'll give it a last try, but I guess it'll be in vain.
>
>I didn't say computerchess was dead in America.
>I said:
>>>Face it, europe seems to be the only place where computerchess lives ( with the
>>>exception of Australia maybe )
>
>Quite a difference and you know it. You conveniently removed all subtility from
>my words and then put them in my mouth.
>
>Tony

K...  A says that XXX is the _only_ place where computer chess lives.  B
says that computer chess is dead everywhere but in XXX.  Are the two statements
different?  In words, yes.  They don't use the same words.  But in meaning?
they are _identical_.

I think that if you look _carefully_ you will find that chess is _not_
"missing in action" in North America.  Or should we just count programs,
continent by continent, to see?





>
>>Peter states
>>that we had 1/3 American entries in the last online tournament.
>>
>>That does not indicate that computer chess is dead in America.
>>
>>The distances are large here.  If we were all located within an hour or two of
>>each other, by car, we would probably have more events.  As it stands, an
>>American championship or some such would necessarily involve plane tickets.
>>
>>I could drive for three days solid and not make it to Bob's house, for instance.
>>
>>bruce
>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP



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