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Subject: Re: Programmer vs Program strength

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 09:43:08 06/08/98

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On June 08, 1998 at 11:04:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>Some GM's at ICC:
>
>The GM list:
[snip]

To be fair, a lot of these don't play anymore or never did play, or
played via remote control, or whatever.

>So if some GM's (masses of gm's at icc, like Kasparov, Svidler, and
>probably
>even Kramnik) play a computer and lose against it at 3 0, then
>this computer gets up in rating, and can remain at this rating,
>yet at FICS it would play still the same  strength and be rated lower.

Mine plays on ICC.  It was the first account to go over 3000.  It does
not play 3 0 or 4 0, the fastest it goes is 5 0.

Most of the strong humans are playing 5 3, it seems to me.  One GM is
playing 10 2.

>It's a complex system, and i think inflation is not the right word,
>because you cannot compare normal rating to blitz rating,
>and the different type of players that get compared: computers get
>compared
>with humans, and there a lot goes wrong.

I don't know what the deal is with ICC ratings.  It used to be that 2600
was a completely outrageous rating.  These days someone has to go over
3100 before they attract the same sort of attention.

I used to use a P6/200 on ICC, it peaked out at 2800 or so, back when
this was the best anyone else was doing.  Now when I run the same
machine, 2800 is a disappointment, 2900 is more like it, and sometimes
it exceeds 3000.

The software is better now but not that much better.

I don't know if the 2200's are now 2500 as well, but the 2700's seem to
be 3000's now.

bruce



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