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Subject: Re: CCL results 08-06-98

Author: blass uri

Date: 04:10:17 06/12/98

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On June 11, 1998 at 18:27:25, Mark Young wrote:


>>>Just for fun I tried to answer this. My data shows about a 45 point gain
>>>in rating if you double the speed of a program running on a P II 266.
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>>what is the fast time control that you doubled in your data?
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>>>You would need a P II 93000
>>>to get a 3.125 point elo gain, if you doubled its speed. Running todays
>>>software.
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>>how did you get 93000?
>>what is the formula that you are based on?
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>I took my data that I had  on NPS matches. Noted the change in rating
>performance for the data I had. What it showed was as computers get
>faster the change in rating from a doubling get less and less. So from
>my data I calculated how fast a P II would have to be in MHz to only
>gain 2 to 5 elo points, if its speed were doubled.

I do not understand what is the formula doubling get less
you say f(266)=45(you gain 45 elo on aPII266)
f(93000)=3.125
but what is the function f you are based on?
f(x)=c/(x^d) when c and d are constants can be a function.

>Based on my limited
>data.  Now remember this is for a computer playing chess at 3 min a
>move. If a P II 93000 only played at one sec a move then a doubling
>would gain more points.
>The same way as it does today. The faster the time control the more
>rating gain you will get playing a slower computer. Example PII 300 Vs
>PII 266 playing the same program. At 3 min a move avg. The ratings gain
>from a P II 266 to a P II 300 is next to nothing. If you played them at
>1 sec a move avg. The gain in ratings because much more.
>I don't claim this will be accurate. As the data was made with many
>chess programs old and new. But I think it might be somewhat close.
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>Don’t take this too seriously as it was done in fun.
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>The formula was based on the data. Noting the change in rating to the
>change in speed of the computer. On a doubling at 3 min a move.
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>>>It may not be right. But I gave it a try.:)
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>>>>My speculation is 10-20 as the current top programs at such fast
>>>>machines are already so good that they can't be slaughtered with
>>>>your suggested 5-25.
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>>>>- Ed -
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>>>>>This just will tell us nothing. I suppose you think differently. So can
>>>>>you please explain what kind of lesson you are expecting from this?
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>>>>>But OK, as I said, this has to be done at least one time.
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>>>>>And BTW I hope to be wrong. I like to be surprised!
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>>>>>    Christophe



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