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Subject: Re: Fritz7 or Shredder6 better for long (tournament) games?

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 08:13:31 01/01/02

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On January 01, 2002 at 09:43:49, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 01, 2002 at 09:30:40, Eran wrote:
>
>>I heard that Fritz7 is stronger than Shredder6, but Shredder6 does better with
>>longer time calculation than Fritz7 does. Is that true?
>>
>>I favored playing long games, both tournament and casual. So I am having a hard
>>time deciding which chess program above is better for long games. Please
>>recommend me.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Eran
>
>I recommand Fritz7
>I do not believe the claim that Shredder is better at long time control.
>
>I heard also claims that Shredder5 is 100 elo better than Fritz6a.
>The ssdf tested it and it turned out that shredder5 is weaker than Fritz6a.
>
>I also heard that shredder6 is 80 elo better than shredder5.32
>I suggest that you believe nothing from it.
>
>Even if shredder6 is 80 elo better than Shredder5.32 it is not going to be
>enough to be better than Fritz7 because Fritz7 is probably clearly better than
>Deep Fritz.
>
>Shredder6 lost recently a match against Fritz7a 8.5-1.5 at 120/40
>The hardware was not the fastest but I do not believe that faster hardware is
>going to change much.
>
>You can download games of shredder6 and Fritz7 at
>http://www.harald-faber.de
>
>Uri

Hello Uri,
In my standard database (games longer than 1 hour/side)  Deep Shredder is 70
points below Fritz 7.  In my Blitz database (mostly Game/5 minutes) Deep
Shredder is 120 points below Fritz 7.  All games played on (2) Athlon 900-1400
machines using auto232.  This is certainly not proof but is some evidence that
Deep Shredder does get better results at longer time controls.  Since I have
this proof, I cannot believe otherwise untill I see proof.  I don't own Shredder
6 so I cannot comment on it.
Jim



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