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Subject: Re: How Rebel plays at SSDF the bare facts, just statistics and thoughts

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 01:55:13 06/17/98

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>Posted by Bruce Moreland on June 17, 1998 at 02:32:08:

>In Reply to: Re: How Rebel plays at SSDF the bare facts, just statistics and
>thoughts posted by Robert Hyatt on June 16, 1998 at 21:52:03:

>On June 16, 1998 at 21:52:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>I would add that I don't see how nor why alternating colors would affect a
>>learner.  It seems to be a badly flawed design if it does, because I'd like
>>to think that a learner would protect a program from playing the same
>>opening round three that it played in round 1 and lost.  And the last time
>>I played in a human tournament with Crafty, I had to alternate colors after
>>*every* game.  As a general rule, on the chess servers, this is also common
>>practice.

>If you and I flip a coin for a buck, one of us will flip the coin, the other
>will call it, and one of us will give the other a buck.

>If we flip the coin, but instead of a buck at state, we have the entire world at
>stake, we will make damned sure we have a good coin, we will be very concerned
>about who flips it and how, and about who calls it, and what to do about odd
>cases like the coin landing on a pebble.

>The more you have at stake, the more you care about the rules.

>I have never seen the Fritz autoplayer.  The whole topic is not very >interesting to me so I haven't read up on every nuance of it.

>But it does make sense that since Ed's big selling point for the past few years
>has been SSDF list position, and he makes his whole livelihood by selling his
>program (I assume), that he'd care very deeply about how the SSDF works.

>For the SSDF guys this whole thing is something they do in off hours, but
>for Ed it is very serious.

>I see his point, he assumed that things would work one way, so he coded
>for that way, and he debugged for that way, and when suddenly something
>different is done, he's threatened because things might not work right
>anymore, and it is very important to him that things work right.

>The argument that Ed had bugs or an incomplete design is not relevent if Ed
>coded for the conditions that he believed he would need to deal with.

SSDF for me is (was) the ultimate competing ground. Being on top has
given me much more satisfaction than my 2 gained world-titles. Of course
there is also the financial part if you are on top of SSDF, at least *if*
you make it a topic in your advertisements but take my word for it that
my two world-titles (especially the one of Madrid) financially have been
much more worthy than being on top of SSDF.

Like to add that for promoting Rebel, SSDF for me is just a very small
part of the total package. You have to realize that SSDF is very popular
to a small (and fixed) group of people but is very unknown to the wide
audience. I once placed an advertisement for Rebel8 in Chess Life. Topic
Rebel8 no.1 on top of SSDF. The feedback I got back was that 99.5% of the
Chess Life readers don't know what SSDF is, so in the ad. you have to
explain it first to your audience :)

Bottom line, there is no such thing SSDF being the one and only thing
that counts. SSDF was a nice competing ground for me since 12 years but
as things are now I just drop it as it will not harm me, this until
things are back to normal.

- Ed -


>bruce




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