Author: Stuart Cracraft
Date: 06:40:25 06/17/98
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On June 16, 1998 at 20:26:28, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On June 16, 1998 at 19:19:02, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>>Posted by Enrique Irazoqui on June 16, 1998 at 18:06:16: >> >>>>>Is it true that Rebel 9 has to save its games in order for any book >>>>>learning to take place? >> >>>>No, this is not true. >> >>>It is not true that in the SSDF match Rebel 9 lost several games >>>against Fritz 5 on the same opening lines because it couldn't save its >>>games and therefore it couldn't learn? I understood this is what you >>>had said. >> >>Nope that's not what I have said, I said that the ChessBase autoplayer >>COULD harm Rebel because it doesn't save the game. The same applies >>for this w-b-w behavior which might disturb the Rebel learner. > >Either for not saving games or because of the w-b-w sequence, the fact is that >R9 lost several double games against F5 in the SSDF match, which means its >learner DID NOT work as usual. Rebel 9 has never lost double games this way in >any other matches I have seen or played. > >Enrique > >>But since the thing is not public how can I check? >> >>And if the Chessbase autoplayer harms Rebel would I not have at least >>the right to investigate that? >> >>Apparently all this is not possible so I am out. I like to compete but >>it should be open and above board. >> >>- Ed - >> >> >> >>>Enrique The learner should be completely dependent of any outside program. For example, Gazebo, my program, does not depend upon an outside program to save games or manage anything. It does everything itself If Rebel 9 depends upon an outside program for this, I would suggest a redesign to make it wholly self-contained. Now my learning code has a odd-byte write bug but that's another story. I plan to fix that with the most obvious solution: write out plain text ascii records (visual game board, score, move, etc.) to the learn file, rather than binary structs. This way the human operator/player or a master can adjust or add positions and readjust scores trivially. Since there are relatively few learned positions, scanning a plain text file will not slow the program down since it is only read in at program startup. --Stuart
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