Author: Amir Ban
Date: 10:05:57 01/26/02
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On January 25, 2002 at 16:52:38, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 25, 2002 at 16:46:38, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: > >>I would like to know the opinion of the readers of this forum on the following >>questions. >>1.What would be the Elo rating of the perfect chessplayer? > >Depends on whether or not he's playing against another perfect player. If he >wins 100% of his games, his ELO is infinite. If he plays another perfect player >and draws 100%, then his ELO is anywhere from 1 to any arbitrary huge number >(same as his opponent) depending on how you seeded the calculation. > >>2.Are there natural limits to the strenght that can be achieved in chess >>for a computerchess player? (Not the present centuary but in any future;that >>is what I mean by natural limits). > >If you calculate to the end of the game, you cannot improve on that. I don't >think we'll see that happen real soon. > >>3.If the rating of perfect player is say x ;what would be the rating of >>the stongest computer player ever(that is the best chessprogram that can be >>ever contructed useing computer technology) .It would be x-?.Or would it be x? > >It would be zero, unless it was perfect also. The perfect player would win >every game and get all the ELO points. The imperfect player would lose all the >games and get an ELO of zero. This is a controversial statement. I think many if not most strong players would disagree with you. Strong players usually don't view the game as a hidden mystery, where in any position some inaccuracy may lose. Note the many grandmaster draws (except those done for tactical purposes) are often in a position where the sides judge that winning is not possible with best play against correct play. Remember Capablanca saying Chess is near to a "death draw", and that even God cannot give him pawn and move odds ? What these statements mean is that Capablanca (rated say 2750), that he is within a few hundred rating points of ideal play, not more. I think many other GM's think their overall grasp of the game is pretty good and would share this opinion. Whether they are right is another question. Amir
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