Author: Jose Menendez
Date: 12:25:10 02/05/02
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On February 05, 2002 at 14:01:48, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On February 05, 2002 at 12:41:35, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On February 05, 2002 at 09:06:04, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On February 05, 2002 at 08:49:28, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 05, 2002 at 06:02:05, James Doby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Now who wants to even see a match aainst rebe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This "2524 Player" is no less than Grandmaster Evgeni Vasiukov...
>>>> More appropriate ,IMO, would be to honour the 69 years old fighter
>>>> for playing this game like he used to in his youth. Old lions can
>>>> still bite and this was a very good tactical performance by Vasiukov.
>>>> I also think this game can serve as an interesting study material for
>>>> computer programs. Should black take the bishop on g5? If so, at which
>>>> specific moment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Aeroflot open"]
>>>>[Site "Moscow"]
>>>>[Date "2002.02.04"]
>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>[White "Vasiukov, Evgeni"]
>>>>[Black "Van Wely, Loek"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "B53"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2530"]
>>>>[BlackElo "2714"]
>>>>[PlyCount "63"]
>>>>[EventDate "2002.02.04"]
>>>>[SourceDate "2001.01.01"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. Nc3 Nf6 8.
>>>>Bg5 e6 9. O-O-O Be7 10. Rhe1 O-O 11. Kb1 Qa5 12. Qd2 Qa6 13. Nd4 Rfc8 14. f4 h6
>>>>15. h4 Qc4 (15... b5 16. Qd3 Qb7 17. e5 dxe5 18. fxe5 hxg5 19. exf6 Bxf6 20.
>>>>hxg5 Bxg5 21. Nxc6 Rxc6 22. Qxb5 Rb8 23. Qxb7 Rxb7 24. Ne4 Be7 25. Re3 f5 26.
>>>>Nf2 e5 27. Rd5 Bf6 28. Rb3 Rxb3 29. axb3 Rc7 30. Nd3 Re7 31. Kc1 Kf7 32. Nc5 g6
>>>>33. g4 Bg5+ 34. Kd1 Be3 35. gxf5 gxf5 36. b4 Kf6 37. Ke2 Bg1 38. c4 Bxc5 39.
>>>>bxc5 Rb7 40. Rd2 Kg5 41. c6 Rc7 42. Rd6 a5 43. Ke3 a4 {
>>>>1/2-1/2 Gipslis-Sutkus cr 1996}) 16. g4 Kf8 17. f5 hxg5 18. hxg5 Nd7 19. fxe6
>>>>Ne5 20. Rh1 fxe6 21. b3 Qb4 22. Rh8+ Kf7 23. Qf4+ Bf6 24. Rh7 Kg8 25. gxf6 Kxh7
>>>>26. Qg5 Rc7 27. Nxe6 Rac8 28. fxg7 Kg8 29. Rh1 Bxe4 30. Rh8+ Kf7 31. Nxc7 Qxc3
>>>>32. g8=Q+ 1-0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sune
>>>
>>>Also it is NOT guaranteed that a 2700 player will always beat a 2500 rated
>>>player.
>>
>>
>> Right. In the same tournament Alexey Dreev 2690 lost with white vs
>> Yemelin 2507. Reports tell that Ilya Smirin 2702 recieved a zero
>> vs Markowski 2548, Smirin having white in this 1st round of Aeroflot.
>> By the way - first price is $ 25000.
>
>The difference between a player of ELO 2714 and 2530 is 184 points. With an ELO
>difference of 184, the win expectancy is 0.257464 and hence, we would expect (on
>average) for the lower ELO player to get about 1 out of 4 points during a long
>match.
>
>That someone would be shocked by the inferior player winning shows a woeful
>ignorance of the ELO system. We would actually expect occasional wins. That's
>on the one hand. On the other hand, this level of "information vacuum" seems to
>be very typical. Very few chess players seems to have a grasp of what the ELO
>ratings mean.
>
>I wish that I could "suck as bad as Van Wely"! Maybe worse!
>;-)
Ofcourse I didn't mean that Van Wely was a "bad" player per see, I don't think
anyone with the brain the size of a pea thought i meant that, I was speaking
comparably, he is not performing as a 2700 elo player should, not just in this
tournament but others as well, for instance The recent tourney last month.
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