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Subject: Re: computerchess...

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 06:16:33 02/21/02

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On February 21, 2002 at 07:36:36, Martin Giepmans wrote:
>I think many programmers *are* interested in a different approach.
>I'm sure that most of them are not satisfied with JASC (just another
>stupid calculator).
>And there has been progress.

really ?

Thomas Nitsche and Elmar Henne once tried. DEAD.
Mark Uniacke once tried. DEAD.
Chris Whittington once tried. DEAD.
Marty Hirsch once tried. DEAD.
Johan de Koning once tried. DEAD.

some of them died in competition with "brute-force" ideologies
(e.g. nitsche and henne had to fight lang [asymmetric search] and
ulf rathsmann [a-strategy]) , marty hirsch has been made bancrott by
not paying him for the units the distributor sold,
whittington lost interest in talking with stupid-technic-freaks
who are not interested in chess at all, johan de koning gave up
to tune on his engine because he did not know HOW to do it any better.

I could have named others too.

most of them had to operate in the shadow of a big concurrent
fight against chessbase.

but mainly i think computerchess has given up. all they want
is: make me number one in sweden to sell as many units of my program
as a chessbase engine.
thats whats left of computerchess.
no progress at all.


>But implementing the subtle strategical understanding of a strong
>human player is very difficult.

right.
and : it could be that you need years where you will NOT lead
the swedish rating list and you will NOT sell any money as beeing
a chessbase engine.

can you stand this :-))


>If you know how to do it, please tell me :)

i do only try out the software that is there.
and i am often frustrated to see that the new things are no way
better than the old days.

there are some exceptions. and when i see this, i jump 5 metres into the
air and email the programmer, and later post tons of games and
i am euphorical.

>Martin



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