Author: leonid
Date: 16:43:41 03/02/02
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On March 02, 2002 at 19:20:49, leonid wrote: >On March 02, 2002 at 18:31:18, Heiner Marxen wrote: > >>On March 02, 2002 at 14:33:53, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On March 02, 2002 at 08:21:10, leonid wrote: >>> >>>>[D]3Q3R/Q2b2Q1/1Q1q1Q2/1qQqQq1B/Nr1q1rNB/2qkq3/1qnbnq2/Q2K2QR w - - >>>> >>>>Please indicate your result. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Leonid. >>> >>>Chessmaster 8000 says Mate in 10 in 2 seconds: >>> >>>Time Depth Score Positions Moves >>>0:02 1/3 Mate10 164719 1.Nxf2+ Rxf2 2.Nxb2+ Qxb2 3.Bxe2+ >>> Qxe2+ 4.Qxe2+ Rxe2 5.Qfxd4+ Nxd4 >>> 6.Q7xd4+ Rxd4 7.Qcxd4+ Qdxd4 8.Qbxd4+ >>> Qdxd4 9.Qaxd4+ Qxd4 10.Qgxd4# >>>0:06 1/4 Mate10 317014 1.Nxf2+ Rxf2 2.Nxb2+ Qxb2 3.Bxe2+ >>> Qxe2+ 4.Qxe2+ Rxe2 5.Qfxd4+ Nxd4 >>> 6.Q7xd4+ Rxd4 7.Qcxd4+ Qdxd4 8.Qbxd4+ >>> Qdxd4 9.Qaxd4+ Qxd4 10.Qgxd4# >>>0:27 2/5 Mate10 1265606 1.Nxf2+ Rxf2 2.Nxb2+ Qxb2 3.Bxe2+ >>> Qxe2+ 4.Qxe2+ Rxe2 5.Qfxd4+ Nxd4 >>> 6.Q7xd4+ Rxd4 7.Qcxd4+ Qdxd4 8.Qbxd4+ >>> Qdxd4 9.Qaxd4+ Qxd4 10.Qgxd4# >>>2:05 2/6 Mate10 5480662 1.Nxf2+ Rxf2 2.Nxb2+ Qxb2 3.Bxe2+ >>> Qxe2+ 4.Qxe2+ Rxe2 5.Qfxd4+ Nxd4 >>> 6.Q7xd4+ Rxd4 7.Qcxd4+ Qdxd4 8.Qbxd4+ >>> Qdxd4 9.Qgxd4+ Qxd4 10.Q7xd4# >>> >>>jm >> >>Chest confirms this to be a shortest possible mate (congrats to CM!), and also >>the symmetric solution found by Sjeng (no surprise from the initial nearly >>symetric position) in 2.3 hours on K7/600 with 350 MB hash: >> >>PV: Nxf2+ Rxf2 Nxb2+ Qxb2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ Rxe2 Qgxd4+ Qdxd4 Qfxd4+ Qbxd4 >>Qgxd4+ Qxd4 Qcxd4+ Rxd4 Qbxd4+ Nxd4 Q7xd4# >>PV: Nxb2+ Qxb2 Nxf2+ Rxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ Rxe2 Qgxd4+ Qdxd4 Qfxd4+ Qbxd4 >>Qgxd4+ Qxd4 Qcxd4+ Rxd4 Qbxd4+ Nxd4 Q7xd4# >> >> Nxb2+ Qxb2 Nxf2+ Rxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ ...+6 >> Rxe2 Qexd4+ ...+6 >> Qxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2# >> Rxb2 Nxf2+ Rxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ ...+5 >> Rxe2 Qexd4+ ...+5 >> Qxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2# >> Nxf2+ Rxf2 Nxb2+ Qxb2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ ...+6 >> Rxe2 Qexd4+ ...+6 >> Rxb2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2+ ...+5 >> Rxe2 Qexd4+ ...+5 >> Qxf2 Bxe2+ Qxe2+ Qxe2# >> >>Chest's timing info shows an EBF around 6: >># 3 0.03s [ 3.00] 1kN [ 12.62] 0.95 93- 0 >># 4 0.15s [ 5.00] 10kN [ 8.13] 1.12 308- 0 >># 5 1.20s [ 8.00] 82kN [ 7.82] 1.29 2813- 0 >># 6 7.29s [ 6.08] 483kN [ 5.91] 1.79 15452- 0 >># 7 44.32s [ 6.08] 3024kN [ 6.26] 2.40 99438- 0 >># 8 248.53s [ 5.61] 17283kN [ 5.72] 3.13 597059- 0 >># 9 1155.17s [ 4.65] 83584kN [ 4.84] 4.42 2797265- 535 >># 10 8042.53s [ 6.96] 526938kN [ 6.30] 6.01 25077142- 16329266 > >Thanks, Heiner! > >Now I see that this is mate in 10. Probably, will put later mine to search mate >in 10 in the night. It could take hours, after my time for 9 moves. I see that >Chess Master found better by searching shorter mate in 10. Mine found by >selective only mate in 11 in 2 seconds. Will look if few additional versions for >selective will take this position in 10. This position was created last Summer >and then I had few selective versions for search. Just tried this position with new selective version and, bingo! Mate in 10 moves in zero seconds. Actually, before my selective version had three "mixed" searches and now I have 5 of them. Mixed search - search start with brute force and later goes by selective. Selective - attacking side look only promissing moves and also number of responses is limited. In my version last Summer my three version of "mixed" search had 1, 2 and 3 moves deep brute force before selective. Now this brute force search goes as far as 5 moves. When I asked to search in 5, "mixed" search response was instant. I not even tried to search for 4 moves brute force search in mixed. It could be that in your future selective search (if you will be interested one day to install it) you can try something like I did. Cheers, Leonid. >My brute force, for my usual conditions: > >Moves Time Branching factor NPS. > >4 0.93 sec 112k > 7.35 >5 6.86 sec 110k > 8.23 >6 56.53 sec 98k > 7.2 >7 6 min 47 sec 106k > 6.62 >8 44 min 57 109k > 6.03 >9 4 hours 31 min 27 sec > >Cheers, >Leonid. > > >>Cheers, >>Heiner
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