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Subject: Re: How Much Stronger is Deepblue then Todays Computers?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:14:53 03/13/02

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On March 13, 2002 at 09:49:49, stuart taylor wrote:

>On March 13, 2002 at 07:26:08, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On March 13, 2002 at 04:09:54, Jerry Doby wrote:
>>
>>>It's hard to believe that anything can be that much strongeer then fritz7 on a
>>>fast platform. Is deepblue 100 elo or above deepfritz on an xp 2000
>>
>>OK, I will bite and get a debate going most likely.  First take a look at:
>>http://home.interact.se/~w100107/manmachine.htm
>>
>>Tony's page has the results for both Top programs today and Deep Blue.
>>
>>Here is a brief comparison:
>>
>>Deep Blue 97  2862   6 games
>>Chess Tiger   2788  11 games
>>Deep Junior   2702   9 games
>>Rebel Cen     2697   4 games
>>Deep Fritz    2678  12 games
>>
>>None of the Commercial programs are on fastest HW today.  Deep Blue only played
>>6 games against one opponent that did not get to prepare (Rebel opponent played
>>100 games against Rebel before the match).  My guess is that Deep Blue rating
>>would drop by 100 to 200 points if put to a serious test.  The Commercial
>>programs would be 100 points stronger on fastest HW.  So they are about the same
>>or slight favorite to the commercials.  I think Rebel, Tiger on fastest single
>>processors and Deep F/J on fastest mps would beat DB 97 in a match.
>>
>>My conclusion is that 5 years after the match, the commercial programs rule.  I
>>think that the gap was closed a couple of years ago.
>
>I'm sure you are approximately right, for various reasons, but Mr. Hyatt would
>never let such an idea pass lying down! He will explain SO many reasons why it
>is nonsense to say as above.
>S.Taylor


Right.

His "chart" has DB 100 points higher than the next-closest program.  Which has
been _my_ point all along.

grow up...  and learn to read...  or both...



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