Author: Tanya Deborah
Date: 23:12:08 03/25/02
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On March 25, 2002 at 18:02:20, Joshua Lee wrote: >You make a good point, Nigel short for instance was well over 100elo less than >Kasparov, yet he was able to make it to a match and win one game on top of >drawing quite a few. Kasparov won ofcourse but the point is that The best >players lose, and even though you are 100 point underdog, you can win. >I wouldn't count Kramnik out against Deep Fritz just yet as Kramnik is alot >Stronger and i have yet to see him lose to Gulko. If someone can find one game >do share. Also GM's , IM's and Master's Get smacked around all the time by >Crafty yet I doubt Hyatt would say that his Program even on the fastest machines >out there plays 100% over 2500. That really is the argument if Van Wely lost two >games then therefore Rebel is as Strong. Rebel Lost two games as well and in >both Losses Rebel Did NOT play 2500 Level chess, if so it wouldn't have lost. >Weeks prior people said Van Wely Sucks because he lost to some 2500elo GM well >last time i checked a GM only Beat's IM's 3 out of 5 Games so obviously the GM >Knows Something that his opponent doesn't. Since the IM would win those 2 games >does that mean he is as strong as the GM? The ratings might also have serious >flaws , when Kramnik has a 2800+ elo and Fischer in 1972 was 2780 (he dropped 5 >after the WC) do you really think that Kramnik is Stronger than Fischer at his >peak? So on the same note 2697elo Van wely might only be 2500 who knows?? > >Blitz games are great at showing how strong a computer is tactically but 40/2 is >a better time control, other than that What if any of these GM's took on any top >program in a correspondence game? IM Mike Valvo took on Deep Thought and won >both his games even though Deep Thought was looking at more positions than >Deep Blue did in 40/2 against Kasparov! I do not think that Deep Thought was looking more positions per second than Deep Blue did in 1997 against Kasparov. Deep Blue can see 200.000.000 positions in a second, and i think that Deep Thought only can see 2.000.000 positions per second. There was a huge difference!! :-) Tanya. > >Computers are Stronger than Most Master's and some Grandmasters but I think >there is alot of fine tuning still to be done seeing how Rebel was lost within >16 moves!
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